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Old 12-02-2003, 07:12 AM   #1
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I'll be traveling to Europe this spring and summer with a Canadian passport. Everything I have read says you don't need a visa if you’re staying less than 90 days. I'm going to be gone for 6 months, but I'll be moving around so much that I'll only been in each country for about 3 weeks. Will I need a visa? My plane ticket is to fly into Athens but out of Lisbon, so I'm not sure if they will take that as proof that I won't be in each country for 90 days. Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated.
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Hey TG,

Sorry that we haven't gotten to this post !

Technically, you can only be in the Schengen countries for 90 days per 6 month periods.

Guerilla way, we say you can only be in the Schengen countries for 90 days in a row, total. So, if you go out of these 15 countries at any point of your trip, for let's say 3 days you head to the Czech Rep or Hungary, then go back into one of these 15 countries, you'll have another 90 days in a row. So save your receipts from countries that are not in the Schengen for proof that you left.

Background: The name "Schengen" originates from a small town in Luxembourg. In June 1985, seven European Union countries signed a treaty to end internal border checkpoints and controls. More countries have joined the treaty over the past years. At present, there are 15 Schengen countries, all in Europe.

The 15 Schengen countries are: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Italy, Greece, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain and Sweden. All these countries except Norway and Iceland are European Union members. More info on the Schengen Treaty and Countries

I was in Madrid for over a year, so I extended my trip by 10 months without any kind of visa. I came back- no problem. I've heard that even if they find out that you've overstayed illegally, you wouldn't have a problem and they'll just let you be, because of great relationships with Europe and Canada/USA/Australia.

I'm not a legal advisor, but I say, don't even fret about it
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Thanks TP for that advice... what do you rekon cliffo, sounds like what we needed to hear.


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oh, sorry forgot to add... getting your passport stamped everytime you leave and enter the schengen areas may also be proof.

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Now I'm a little worried. I contacted the Canadian Government and they said that I would just have to make sure I get my passport stamped in a few different countries. I was figuring at the ferry port in Italy and then when I went into the UK would cover me. I noticed England, Scotland or Ireland were not listed in the Schengen countries. So if I go to one of these places will I be covered? Thanks for getting back to me. I'm leaving in 2 months and I want to make sure I have all of the legal things taken care of before I go so I won't have to worry about it once I'm over there.
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No, england/scotland are not in the schengen, but like before you would just have to check with your travel agent how long without a visa you were allowed to stay there for.


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I read on a UK gov site that its 3 months (90 days)
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I've read that its 90 days for the UK too. So it seems like my original plan will work, I'll be entering the UK after being in Europe for about 80 Days, I'm in the Uk for about 30 days, then I'm heading to France after that. Thanks for everyone's help!
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