1st Time Europe - 97 Days
After a couple false starts, I'm finally definitely going to Europe :stoked: For my graduation (next year) I'm getting:
- A plane ticket to Europe - A 3-month global Eurail pass (doesn't cover Poland, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia) - $50/day for 90 days My ideal is to save up enough that I will have a total of $85/day for 97 days, plus transportation for the countries not covered by my railpass. I plan to spend a week in England, then 90 days in the Schengen countries (that's the max allowed, right?) I want to see A LOT, because I want to take advantage of my railpass and I have over three months, but I don't want to burn out, and I have a pretty strict budget. Are there any places I should add/cut days? I left two weeks on the end as a bumper, and I'd be fine spending that all in Greece, or adding it in other places for detours or more chill time. I know this will probably go out the window in a matter of days and will change a ton before I ever leave, but I'm basically terrified (though excited) to be in Europe on my own for so long, and I want to have a solid and thoroughly researched plan I can fall back on, even if I don't end up sticking to it. 1 - London (day trips to Stonehenge and Stratford) 2 - London 3 - London 4 - London 5 - London 6 - London 7 - London 8 - Early Eurostar/Ryanair flight to Paris 9 - Paris (day trip to Versailles) 10 - Paris 11 - Paris 12 - Paris - Night Train to Interlaken 13 - Interlaken 14 - Interlaken - Overnight train to Luxembourg 15 - Luxembourg - Train to Bruges 16 - Bruge 17 - Early train to Amsterdam 18 - Amsterdam 19 - Amsterdam 20 - Amsterdam - Night Train to Berlin 21 - Copenhagen (Day Trip to Aero Island) 22 - Copenhagen 23 - Copenhagen 24 - Copenhagen (Night Train/Ferry to Oslo) 25 - Morning train to Helsingor, evening ferry to Helsingborg, night train to Oslo 26 - Oslo 27 - Oslo 28 - early train to Stockholm 29 - Stockholm - Night train/ferry to Helsinki? 30 - Helsinki 31 - Helsinki 32 - morning ferry to Tallinn 33 - Tallinn 34 - Tallinn 35 - morning bus to Riga 36 - Riga 37 - Riga 38 - morning bus to Vilnius 39 - Vilnius 40 - Vilnius 41 - morning flight to Krakow 42 - Krakow (day trip to Auschwitz) 43 - Krakow 44 - train to Prague 45 - Prague 46 - Prague 47 - Prague 48 - morning train to Cesky Krumlov 49 - Cesky Krumlov - night train to Ljubljana 50 - Ljubljana 51 - Ljubljana 52 - morning train to Lake Bled 53 - Lake Bled - night train to Budapest 54 - Budapest 55 - Budapest 56 - Budapest - night train to Venice 57 - Venice 58 - Venice 59 - Venice 60 - Venice 61 - Venice 62 - morning train to Florence 63 - Florence 64 - morning train to Rome 65 - Rome 66 - Rome 67 - Rome 68 - Rome 69 - morning train to Pompeii 70 - Pompeii (Day trip to Vesuvius) 71 - morning train to Bari (6hrs), hang out, catch Bari-Patras ferry in evening 72 - ferry 73 - train to Athens 74 - Athens 75 - Athens 76 - Athens 77 - Athens 78 - Santorini 79 - Santorini 80 - Santorini 81 - Crete 82 - Crete Days 83-97 - ??? THANK YOU for any advice :D |
My one biggest piece of advice is "be flexible". The plan seems great, but don't feel that once you're over there, you have to stick to your schedule; if you're having a blast in Tallinn, stay and extra day. Or two. Remember, with so many days planned in your trip you can make up time as you go, so to speak. Esepcially given that you have nothing concrete planned for the last two weeks at this juncture.
Have the outline of your schedule, but don't be afraid to fly by the seat of your pants. Have a blast and seize every day- this could be a once in a lifetime opportunity! |
Thanks for replying Kyle, I think that is really good advice, and I plan to take it to heart. Despite my current planning obsession, one of the things I'm most looking forward to is being able to do just about whatever and go wherever I want. Freedom! :)
I noticed I made some typos, oops :unsure: There should be four days of Berlin between Amsterdam & Copenhagen, and Day 24 should just be ignored. (No point in going to Oslo, then to Helsingor then back to Oslo!) |
The only thing that I noticed while quickly glancing through is where you fit Interlaken in. Central Switzerland is my favourite place in the world, so I personally would fit more time in there, but maybe do it somewhere between the prague and venice part of your trip.
I'm jealous... |
If you like to party, do not miss Ios in Greece. It's like a drunken disneyland for 18-30 year olds.
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I'd say that maybe France needs a little more attention on your itinerary. It's a beautiful country.
Also, definitely agree that you should be flexible. It's not uncommon to meet a bunch of peeps that you dig hanging out with and may want to explore other places together. Allow some extra free days for that. And with that budget, you'll do just fine especially in the Eastern European countries. :cheers: |
When ever there's a body of water involved it's nearly always better to fly. The eurostar train from London to Paris was very expensive last time I checked. The trains in western Europe (bar Ireland) are brilliant, they're on time, fast and usually go every hour.
The ferrys are probably worth any extra you'll pay due to what you'll be able to see. |
Looks like you're on the right start, and it's good to know that you're willing to be flexible. The biggest piece of advice is to avoid trying to see it all in just one trip. It looks like you're doing a good job of this so far though! Welcome to the boards and continue to ask questions!
Also, central Switzerland is awesome. It's about an hour from Interlaken to a small town named Gimmelwald (popularized by Rick Steves and word of mouth) where you can stay at the Mountain Hostel and wake up every morning looking out at the alps. I spent 10 nights there last summer and it was the perfect way to end my trip. |
To add to what MeTurk said - if you want to avoid the pricey eurostar from London to Paris, you can get a ferry from Harwich (near London) to Hoek van Holland, then a train onto Amsterdam. You'll have to make a few connections but it should work out ok, if you wanted to switch your schedule round a bit?
I'd maybe suggest cut down a day or two in Venice and staying a bit longer in Florence / Rome. It's an amazing place, an absolute must-see, but I went for 3 days and was ready to leave by the end! It's quite pricy and a nightmare to negotiate, even with a map. Walking around the main island on Venice is like being inside Tomb Raider (but without traps, guns and animals that attack you). |
Apparently we are pretty similar! I am currently making an itinerary for my 8 month trip, but only as a rough guide. Places I would like to see with times I think would give me enough time for a relaxed trip (no fewer than 3 nights in any one city, with a few exceptions). Like you, I know I am going to be flexible and I know that the plan will probably get thrown out the window, but it's always nice to have something to fall back on.
When exactly are you going? In addition to a rough plan, I am scoping out recs for hostels in the cities I will be visiting, will take a list and plan to book 1-2 weeks ahead, probably closer to a month in the high season. |
I dont know if anyone would agree with me but from my experience you only really need 3 days max in Venice, its a beautiful place but i would say 5 days is too much. Same goes with Rome, i would dedicate an entire day if you plan on visiting the Vatican as queues can be HUGE!! i waited at least 2 and a half hours to get in so get there early! Also, a day trip to Pisa from Rome is easy, its pretty touristy, not much there except restaurants and hotels but the Leaning Tower is a definate must see! A day trip to Sienna from Florence is also worth it aswell.
Also, i would add on at least a few more days in Bled, theres plenty day trips to take and there are so many activites such as canyoning, paragliding, white water rafting etc if you want to splash out a bit , its definately worth it! The place is gorgeous, you wont want to leave! Slovenia is by far my favourite place in europe! the scenery is unbelievable! Hope this has been some help |
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