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Old 02-02-2006, 06:28 AM   #1
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The Economist Intelligence Unit just published the palmares of worldwide costs of living (128 countries surveyed). Helpful for travel preparation...

The most expensive cities in the world :
Oslo (Norway)
Tokyo (Japan)
Reykjavik (Island)
Osaka (Japan)
Paris (France)
London (UK)
Zurich (Switzerland)
Geneva (Switzerland)
Helsinki (Finland)


The least expensive ones :
Mumbai (India)
Asuncion (Paraguay)
Karachi (Pakistan)
Manila (Philipines)
Teheran

Emerging cities, where the cost of living is increasing rapidly :
Moscow (Russia) «--- ranked 30th, popular belief in the western world is that it's unexpensive, but for comparison, New York is ranked 27th...
Belgrade (Serbia)
Bucharest (Romania)
Kiev (Ukraine)
Warshaw (Poland)
Prague (Cecz Republik)
Budapest (Hungary)
Bratislava (Slovakia)
Istanbul (Turkey)
Rio de Janeiro (Brazil)
Sau Paulo (Brazil)


Cities where the cost of living is decreasing :
Cities of China
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Old 02-02-2006, 06:39 AM   #2
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They where on about this on the news lastnight, Dublins up to 16th. Serves them rioght

But this list is really aimed at the people who live there, and includes house prices I think..?
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Old 02-02-2006, 07:14 AM   #3
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Yes, but also food and beverages, clubs, transport, etc. For travellers, it is a general indicator to prepare our budget or itinerary.
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oh no im going to oslo on tuesday
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yeah i saw somthin bout this.. apprantely melbourne is more expensive to live in then new york now.....wtf?
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I love the Economic Intelligence Unit. They rock.
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Why oh why did I choose to live in Tokyo? Yup, it feels about the most expensive city in the world...my money is constantly disappearing on not much of anything....

Hmm, maybe bring on the Phillipines for spring break...
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Here's last years top 10:

1. Tokyo, Japan
2. Osaka, Japan
3. London, United Kingdom
4. Moscow, Russia
5. Seoul, South Korea
6. Geneva, Switzerland
7. Zurich, Switzerland
8. Copenhagen, Denmark
9. Hong Kong, Hong Kong
10. Oslo, Norway


Oslo sure did pick up its game in the past year
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Originally posted by LostFarmboy@Feb 6 2006, 09:05 PM
Here's last years top 10:

1. Tokyo, Japan
2. Osaka, Japan
3. London, United Kingdom
4. Moscow, Russia
5. Seoul, South Korea
6. Geneva, Switzerland
7. Zurich, Switzerland
8. Copenhagen, Denmark
9. Hong Kong, Hong Kong
10. Oslo, Norway
Oslo sure did pick up its game in the past year
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Oh wait, that top 10 is by a different company so it isn't really a good comparison. How do they determine the expense of a city anyways???
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is there anywhere that you can see the full list without buying it off the EIU website?
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Originally posted by LostFarmboy+Feb 7 2006, 12:11 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(LostFarmboy @ Feb 7 2006, 12:11 AM)</div>
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How do they determine the expense of a city anyways???
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160 items are surveyed twice a year, in June and December, listed in these categories :

-Shopping basket
-Alcoholic beverages
-Household supplies
-Personal care
-Tobacco
-Utilities
-Clothing
-Domestic help
-Recreation & entertainment
-Transportation

They also survey housing rents, international schools, health & sports, and business trip costs, but those are not included in the index.

So yes, the report can be a good tool for the travellers.

The whole explaination : Economist Intelligence Unit


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is there anywhere that you can see the full list without buying it off the EIU website?
I don't think so... I browsed through a dozen of articles from several countries in order to provide the above list !


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oh no im going to oslo on tuesday
Hey bassgirl, how is it going there ? And the wallet... all thin and light ?

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Why oh why did I choose to live in Tokyo? Yup, it feels about the most expensive city in the world...my money is constantly disappearing on not much of anything....
Will you be able to give us a few tips about food and lodging ? Is there something that is not pricy ?
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I browsed through a dozen of articles from several countries in order to provide the above list !
Nice work, Esther!
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Originally posted by atchoum@Feb 7 2006, 10:54 AM
160 items are surveyed twice a year, in June and December, listed in these categories :

-Shopping basket
-Alcoholic beverages
-Household supplies
-Personal care
-Tobacco
-Utilities
-Clothing
-Domestic help
-Recreation & entertainment
-Transportation

Will you be able to give us a few tips about food and lodging ? Is there something that is not pricy ?
Here are some examples of prices: (with exact conversion to US dollars)

1/2 gallon of milk: 189 yen = $1.59
6 pieces of bread (they don`t really do loaves here): 190 yen = $1.60
ramen noodles at a noodle bar (lunch; dinner is more expensive): 750 yen = $6.32
typical ticket on metro: 160 yen-290 yen = $1.35-$2.44
bus ticket: 200 yen = $1.68
minimum to get in a cab: 660 yen = $5.56
typical entrance to a club: 3000 yen = $25.27
mixed drink: 1000 yen and up = $8.43+

These prices might not look that expensive but trust me, they really are. I won`t even get into how much clothing, movies, and NICE meals are here. Not to mention rent and utilities, etc. And travel around Japan is SUPER expensive. Let`s put it this way: it would be cheaper for me to fly to Thailand and spend two weeks there than it would be to travel somewhere in Japan for just 3 days.

The only thing that surprisingly and disappointingly is cheap----------cigarettes! There are vending machines all over which sell cigarettes for typically 250 yen = $2.11! Too bad I`m not a smoker....

I don`t know about hostels really since I have not stayed in one here. I just did a search and only 8 came up in all of Tokyo. It makes sense there are not many since Japan is not exactly on the Asian backpacking route since it`s off the mainland and just too expensive. For a 10 bed mixed dorm, two of them are currently $20 US/night and others were upwards of $30 and others over $30 for the same....actually cheaper than I thought they would be....

Yeah, you really don`t see backpackers here. Gaijin (or foreigners) who are here are usually here 1) working or 2) studying.....
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^ Thanks ! May I duplicate your post for the Asia forum, or would you do it ? Those are very useful tips for anyone trying to set a budget for Japan.
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No problem!

Would you mind duplicating it? I am not quite sure where to put it...
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