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beergal 04-07-2005 05:21 AM

so for any of us Brits on here old enough to vote (sorry Roz) just wondering what your voting decision is going to be...im so confused already

butterj 04-07-2005 01:13 PM

I have no idea yet, not sure i would vote labour because i am not sure about this ID card bill they are trying to get through. It could be an awfull thing if it was abused they already have to much information about us.

mabey Green party but not sure

OHT1910 04-07-2005 02:04 PM

Lib Dem I think.

Having Blair in power is just frightening (do a www.google.co.uk search and look up "liar" :mellow: ) . Whatever the human rights aspect they put on it now, it wasn't the reason for war so he showed one of the worst pieces of judgement in modern history by taking us into a war because of a threat that didn't exist.

Tories are getting more and more right wing so no chance of a vote for them.

I don't want independence so SNP is out.

You never know, if Lib Dems piss me off, I may vote Green yet - > :greenguy:

There's my tuppence's worth. http://forums.sage.tv/forums/images/smilies/soapbox.gif ;)

Tadpole 04-07-2005 04:25 PM

Its sooo much easier here. You have Democratic or Republican, thats it. Sure you an cast a null vote for some other canidate in another party but the Democratic and Republican dominate the political scene.

butterj 04-07-2005 04:34 PM

I have voted Green before and i figure i don't want them to win but the more votes the more seats and hopefully the greener the UK, and hopefully they will put preasure on other contries to also comply with the many aggrements they break.

beergal 04-08-2005 01:02 AM

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Its sooo much easier here. You have Democratic or Republican, thats it. Sure you an cast a null vote for some other canidate in another party but the Democratic and Republican dominate the political scene.

no way does that seem easier or much of a democratic choice for me..i think the green party have got some credible party statements but lib dems seem like the only valid voting party
a) only unified anti-war party
B) doesnt support id cards

Rozza 04-08-2005 04:27 AM

the only real choices seem to be tory, labour or lib dems,

beergal 04-08-2005 08:04 AM

yes it would seem that these three party's are the main choices anyone but labour please

TimmyJames1976 04-08-2005 08:19 AM

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Originally posted by Tadpole@Apr 7 2005, 04:24 PM
Its sooo much easier here. You have Democratic or Republican, thats it. Sure you an cast a null vote for some other canidate in another party but the Democratic and Republican dominate the political scene.
Sad but true, and easier doesn't make it better....not that you said it does, just making a point

agriadam 04-08-2005 08:33 AM

^I agree, although I would much rather have several more choices than it be easier. In fact I don't think that it should be easy... ex I did not like either candidate this past election. But I couldn't vote independent or I would throw my vote a way... oh so instead I voted demo in a repub state and still threw my vote away... F the Electoral College http://www.geocities.com/atclarks/behead.gif to save the rebuttal Kerry lost popular votes as well I know

:whistle:

but sorry to hijack your thread... carry on... -_-

TimmyJames1976 04-08-2005 08:35 AM

Is Blair the UK Bush? I'm rather ignorant on other world leaders.

agriadam 04-08-2005 08:37 AM

I'm sure that someone else can better answer better, but yes, Tony Blair is the British Prime minister... So yes I guess he is kind of like our president,that and he is up Bush's ass.

beergal 04-08-2005 08:55 AM

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I'm sure that someone else can better answer better, but yes, Tony Blair is the British Prime minister... So yes I guess he is kind of like our president,that and he is up Bush's ass.
glad you see it that way to..oh the dismaying effects of globalisation and our special relationship...

MeTurk 04-08-2005 08:57 AM

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Its sooo much easier here. You have Democratic or Republican, thats it.
:lol: You'd love the Irish system of voting. I'm not sure if it's the same as the UK I don't think it is. It's kindof complicated here's a discription from some website...
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At the heart of the Irish electoral system is the desire to make every vote count. To achieve this, the Irish use proportional representation and transferable votes. This combination permits a dynamic multiparty legislature and increases the representativeness of the Dáil. Irish voters indicate not only their first choice for member of parliament but also rank the candidates in order of their preference. The voters, by ranking the candidates, give instructions as to who should receive their support should the first choice candidate be eliminated or elected.
So the votes sometimes have to be recounted a few times depending on weather or not a candidate meets the quota.. or something along those lines..

agriadam 04-08-2005 09:27 AM

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Originally posted by MeTurk@Apr 8 2005, 10:56 AM
...depending on weather or not a candidate meets the quota..
What does the weather have to do with an election?? :lol: :lol: :lol: sorry I couldn't resist..

beergal 04-08-2005 10:26 AM

blimey...you irish always have to make things complicated dont you lol

butterj 04-08-2005 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by beergal1@Apr 8 2005, 04:03 PM
yes it would seem that these three party's are the main choices anyone but labour please
Im not sure that labour are that bad com'on i know he has made some choices, but i don't think you can judge the whole party on blair. you have to be damn careful we definatly dont want the Tory's back!!!!!!

and i want a fair vote on europe.

What i really want is a new party to vote on, for the young, The future.

beergal 04-09-2005 04:10 AM

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and i want a fair vote on europe.

What i really want is a new party to vote on, for the young, The future.

it has to be the lib dems then....

mowark 04-09-2005 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by Tadpole@Apr 7 2005, 03:24 PM
Its sooo much easier here. You have Democratic or Republican, thats it. Sure you an cast a null vote for some other canidate in another party but the Democratic and Republican dominate the political scene.
This really isn't much different from the UK situation. While third parties fair better there than here, it is still a two party system. Third parties assert some influence in Parliament, but Labour and Tories are still in complete control.

mowark 04-09-2005 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by agriadam@Apr 8 2005, 07:36 AM
I'm sure that someone else can better answer better, but yes, Tony Blair is the British Prime minister... So yes I guess he is kind of like our president,that and he is up Bush's ass.
In a very basic sense. There are several very important differences though. The primary difference is the UKers dont vote for their Prime Minister. The Parliament chooses from among members of parliament. Also, the American President is in some sense an anomoly. Most countries see a president as a figurehead, akin to the british monarchy. while our president deals in both official business and acts as the head of state (a ceremonial role), the british prime minister is only the head of state. There are other very important differences, but I've probably already said more than anyone really cares to know.


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