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Old 09-10-2011, 10:49 PM   #1
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I'm pretty surprised no one has put one of these threads up about tomorrow(9/11/11) and maybe I'm missing it but I figure "General Discussion" is the best place to ask/wonder things.

I got back from my first trip to Europe on 7/31/01. I've been back 3 times since, and to be honest I found the people who were nice before are still nice and the people who were dicks before, to still be dicks. I'm not sure how 9/11 defined us as a country to the rest of the world but people who dislike Americans before, still dislike Americans. Sympathy doesn't give America a blank "moral" check and I don't think it should. What we went through was horrendous but not all that different than what some people go through every day.
I've already edited this thing 4 times to this point because I worry about pissing people off but I think that's, in a way, the point of a travel website as diverse as this. Not to piss people off but to "experience" different points of view than your own. The difference between the person I was the first time I travelled abroad and the second time(after I found this site) is enormous.
I've asked a few non-Americans what 9/11 meant to them and have gotten a variety of answers, most of which toed the line between "Wow, America is seriously vulnerable?!," and "Seriously, America? You thought you were invulnerable??"
Pretty much everyone I've met on this website ranks in the 95 percentile of my favorite people on Earth and I would love to know what you guys think.

--Where were you when it happened?
--Did it or How Did it affect your travel plans/ philosophy?
--How has your life changed since then?
--......the questions are endless?......

I apologize if this thing is like a rant....it kinda is, I just don't know how to, ......well, you probably get it.


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I'm pretty surprised no one has put one of these threads up about tomorrow(9/11/11) and maybe I'm missing it but I figure "General Discussion" is the best place to ask/wonder things.

I got back from my first trip to Europe on 7/31/01. I've been back 3 times since, and to be honest I found the people who were nice before are still nice and the people who were dicks before, to still be dicks. I'm not sure how 9/11 defined us as a country to the rest of the world but people who dislike Americans before, still dislike Americans. Sympathy doesn't give America a blank "moral" check and I don't think it should. What we went through was horrendous but not all that different than what some people go through every day.
I've already edited this thing 4 times to this point because I worry about pissing people off but I think that's, in a way, the point of a travel website as diverse as this. Not to piss people off but to "experience" different points of view than your own. The difference between the person I was the first time I travelled abroad and the second time(after I found this site) is enormous.
I've asked a few non-Americans what 9/11 meant to them and have gotten a variety of answers, most of which toed the line between "Wow, America is seriously vulnerable?!," and "Seriously, America? You thought you were invulnerable??"
Pretty much everyone I've met on this website ranks in the 95 percentile of my favorite people on Earth and I would love to know what you guys think.

--Where were you when it happened?
--Did it or How Did it affect your travel plans/ philosophy?
--How has your life changed since then?
--......the questions are endless?......

I apologize if this thing is like a rant....it kinda is, I just don't know how to, ......well, you probably get it.


I don't usually talk to internationals about 9/11 because there is generally other things to talk about that aren't so controversial or emotional. And they never seem to ask maybe because they've heard it all before or maybe because they think it's inappropriate.
To answer your questions I was in first period during my senior year of high school. I was fairly young when it happened but it made me not want to travel as much, but don't worry I got over it. The biggest thing I think about when I think about 9/11 is that I can't remember what occupied the news programs before it.
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Old 09-28-2011, 02:13 PM   #3
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I was in a Microsoft Seminar at the Hotel Pontchartrain in Detroit... no one said anything to us when it happened. We didn't find out til we broke for lunch about 11. It seemed pretty amazing at the time. I never thought America was invulnerable, but I didn't necessarily expect it that way. It hasn't affected my travel plans then or now... besides my distaste for the TSA.

It was a tragic event, however one that I feel could have been resolved with less destruction. But I don't feel the after effects, such as the TSA and Homeland Security were the answer, both of which put people who lack common sense in control of important things, like my safety, which I all too often have to rant to them about.
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Good thread!

When 9/11 happened, I was walking into Computer Science class in first-year university. I didn't know anyone involved, I lived in Toronto, and no one I knew knew of anyone affected by the incident.

The following decade would see my interest in politics ignited, first as an activist in the post-9/11 wars on Iraq, then working in NGOs, then into international affairs in government -- and a whole lot of travelling in between: Europe, Middle East, Asia -- ultimately leading to my deployment and year spent living in Kandahar, Afghanistan where I had the job of talking to Pashtun tribesmen and writing about the situation.

I came home this year with a minimum of psychological scars, but a vast amount of experience, professional and personal, and despite the tragedy of 9/11, I can't help but acknowledge that it indirectly led to every good thing I have.
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