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Old 06-19-2006, 12:51 PM   #1
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Just got back from a long weekend in Paris, here are a few of our observations about enjoying the City of Lights with kids.

1. Accommodations: We stayed at the Aubervilliers Etap hotel, a three person room (double bottom/single top bunk). Not a particularly pretty location, but convenient to metro and the town centre. About a 15 min walk to the metro, or there's a bus, but still about a 5 min walk to the stop. There's a park with a playground across the street, and the centre nautique (public swimming pool) is tantalizingly close - the kids could see in the windows and begged to go every time we passed. About 10 mins in a different direction (follow the signs to the "Centre"), is the centre of the neighbourhood, lots of bustle, shops and a strategic McDonalds, if you're desperate. There's a decent brasserie right across the street from the hotel, though, and a bakery on the corner which is cheaper than the 4 Euro/person breakfast at the hotel. And probably the same buns. The area is very multicultural - everywhere you look you'll see people dressed in colourful garb more usually seen in Africa or Asia than Europe. Great fun. Also, lots of cheap clothing shops if you need replacements!

There are tons of etaps all over Paris, usually around the 40 - 45 Euro price range - they book up pretty fast, though.

2. Food: Breakfasts we bought at bakeries en route to the metro every morning. There's a cafeteria (I think probably a chain, though we only found one) called Flunch, which is a good bet for satisfying a range of tastes - they have a kids meal and a daily special, or pick and choose whatever you want. The one we ate at was across the street from the Pompidou Centre, downstairs. The chocolate torte was de-lish...

Dinners - first night we ate at the brasserie across the street - about 55 Euro for 6 of us, including a beer and water/juice/Coke. Most of the restaurants we wanted to eat at didn't open til about 7, but we were too hungry to wait. The second night after wandering for about 2 hours we finally gave up and went to the aforementioned McDonalds - there's a play area upstairs.

3. Attractions: The Musee d'Orsay had a kid's programme/treasure hunt kind of thing focussing on the train-iness of the place - the architecture, the history of the building, paintings of trains, and what not. It was quite good, though only available in French. The museum is not stroller friendly at all, lots of little flights of stairs and you can't get all the way round on the second level so it was kind of fiddly negotiating it. But the polar bear sculpture was a hit there. The clock and great stained glass window were also well received, and the older girls recognized some of the paintings, but it wasn't the biggest hit of the trip.

The Louvre had no specific children's programme, but it's so awesome. We did a treasure hunt to find the works on the plan, and followed their interests - our son was engaged by a ratty little dog on a table at "The Wedding of Cana" (across from the newly located Mona Lisa - kids are allowed to go up to a special viewing area), and we looked for similar ratty little dogs in other paintings - there were several and it was quite fun. We checked out the "Objets d'art" exhibit, where the Napoleon apartments were a HUGE hit. Since we didn't plan on visiting Versailles or any other palaces, we got a taste of glam without a separate trip. There, I randomly named several items for them to find (a pumpkin, fish, wheat, swords, a tiger...) and they discovered them in everything from sculpture to mosaics to ceramics.

Both the Louvre and the Musee d'Orsay have "My Little ________" museum guides for kids (about 10 Euro) which highlight particular artworks and ask specific questions or give particular info - they're good, and I'd have bought them as games/souvenirs if we hadn't had to lug them around all the rest of the day. Normally we buy postcards which serves the same purpose without as much detailed info, but didn't this time.

The smaller places were bigger hits, though. The Musee des Arts et Metiers is a fascinating look at scientific development, with lots of hands on exhibits, though the staff on our visit were rather unfriendly and told us off for making too much noise with the big clunky wooden hands-on exhibit...

Also, the Paris City Museum of Modern Art has an incredible painting "La Fee d'Electricite" that is said to be the largest in the world. You could get lost in it for hours. Again, we did a treasure hunt, but just in that one painting. Lots of Picassos and Matisses and all sorts of other stuff too, but don't miss the "Salle Dufy".

The Musee Marine, a maritime museum, has cool models, a film clip of deep water exploration subs and the crazy critters they study, and the nicest bathrooms we found in Paris. Not the ones by the front door, they're basic, but the ones downstairs and at the back are truly lovely, and the only ones I found with a counter at which you could conceivably change a diaper.

Another hit was the Cite des Industries in Parc de la Villette. It's a big science centre, with tons of hands on exhibits that are fun even if you don't speak French. Some of the displays have optional english commentary, but by no means all. The place is huge. We spent about two hours there, and saw barely a quarter of it. The Parc itself sounded nice to me, but we didn't like it so much when we got there. Perhaps we didn't see the nicest part, but I like a good amount of grass in my parks, and this had rather a lot of concrete and steel. There is a fun playground, the Dragon, although bits of it were closed off when we were there. The kids had a ball though. There's also a good sized amusement park, but we didn't linger there. At 3 Euro a piece for a carousel ride, one turn around the merry-go-round costs us more than a meal...

There's also a music museum in the Parc, though we didn't get there in time to check it out.

There's also a little playground round the side of Notre Dame Cathedral, though it's more geared to really little kids (up to 6, I'd say). Our older girls (8 and 10) still played, but the equipment was pretty tiny for them. It's a lovely place for a sit and rest, though. We also took a break in the Jardin des Tuileries, the kids had a ball running through the maze, and we enjoyed a chance to take off our shoes and wiggle our toes in the grass.

We got Museum Passes for my husband and I, kids under 18 are usually free, except at a few places, like the Cite des Industries which gears to kids. So it's not necessary to get them a card. The cards have changed this year, they now have 2, 4 and 6 day passes, instead of the 1,3,5 and 7 day passes we anticipated. Since we had three days in the city, we crammed the museums into two days, and did other stuff on the third day. A huge plus to the cards is that you don't have to queue to go into the museums or to buy tickets, at the Louvre you even go through a different entrance (the group entrance). However, if you have a stroller (une poussette, in France) you have to go into a different, different entrance in the Pyramid. But you still don't have to wait in line and you get to ride a really cool elevator.

4. Getting around: We are hard core public transit fans, even though this is usually a hassle with a stroller. We saw people taking fancy bulky strollers on the metro, but an umbrella stroller is much more manageable. Our first choice was to buy the weekly Orange card, but unfortunately they don't sell them on Thursdays. These passes are good for a calendar week, but you can only buy them from Friday to Wednesday. The next Friday, the following week's pass goes on sale, but you can't use it that weekend. It's rather a pain. So we opted for our second choice, the Paris Visite Card, which is not as good a deal, but the three day pass pays off if you take 15 rides (I think), which is not hard. It covers Metro, bus and RER, so you're all set, and it makes giving your tired feet a break by catching a bus instead of walking a more manageable option. The cards themselves are just the size of a normal subway ticket, so they're a bit easy to lose track of, if you're not paying attention. Kids 5 and up pay half price, and the tickets are available for them, so no fiddling with change.

To get a stroller into the metro, you have to walk confidently up to the out door and have someone open the door for you. Our girls loved the job, but if you are traveling alone, feel free to accost people going through and ask them to open the doors for you - we saw it happen frequently, no one gives it a second thought.

A great movie to watch before/after a visit to Paris is "An American in Paris". The music is great, the dancing is amazing, the kids might recognize the style of the final sketch if they've seen the Dufy painting, and there are some fun scenes with kids in. Our five year old son left during the middle portion (the boring romance bit), but enjoyed the finale. Of course, there are familiar landmarks cropping up throughout, and a happy ending is what Paris is all about, non?

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Old 06-20-2006, 09:57 AM   #2
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Thank you family travel guru !

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Old 06-20-2006, 06:29 PM   #3
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Heheh where were you in 1997 when my parents took us?!?!!? they would have loved this!!

Really good info!!
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This is soooooo great!

I'm heading off to Paris with the wee one (she's almost 4) and my brother, his wife and their lil' one (13 months) for 10 days at the end of April. I haven't been to Paris in 10 years and it was definitely not with a child back then so this is very helpful!

What we ended up doing for accommodations is renting a 3 bedroom apartment (my sis-in-law's g-ma is also coming with). It's in a great location, has a couple bathrooms, a small yard and a kitchen (which i think is essential when travelling with the 2 kiddos and should cut down on some food costs) I think the apartment was about 1500-1700 Euros for the trip and when split between the 3 of us, it became pretty darn affordable (there were cheaper ones but finding a 3-bdrm in such a great location was difficult -- of course, i haven't actually been to the apt yet, so we shall see). We booked quite a bit in advance though, and I think April is not quite "high" season so that seemed to help in the price. However, one consideration when booking an apartment is we had to give them a damage deposit (refundable when we leave) as well as some places require an "agency fee" which can be expensive so keep an eye out for that. There are a few "vacation rentals by owner" sites that don't seem to have agency fees so those are worth checking out.

Thanks a bunch for posting all this info!

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what no euro disney?! only kidding!
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:18 PM   #7
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Erin, I'd love to hear your take on Paris avec les enfants. You'll be with smaller ones than we've got (our youngest was three when we went, she's four now) so I'm sure your experiences will be helpful for anyone else dealing with the really little ones.

Apartments are a great way to go if you're going to be there for any length of time - usually they like to rent for a week or more, in our experience. We only had three days, so it wasn't a great option for us. We did rent in Budapest, and it really is awesome, particularly if you have nappers who do better with an actual bed. Ours tend to just flake out wherever they happen to be (I have pics of our kids asleep on buses in Poland, metros in Naples, strollers in Singapore, backpacks in Korea and of course the back seat of our car all over Europe). Let us know how your apartment rental in Paris worked out.

Belfast - we actually drove past the EuroDisney sign on our way into town, but I managed to divert the kids' attention to the other side of the highway for the strategic moment. Fortunately, we don't have a TV so the kids don't get saturated with Disney ads - when we lived in Japan, most of our friends took their kids to Tokyo Disney, just to stop the whining, but we managed to avoid that too. I've been to Disneyland once and Disney World once. Disneyland, I was five and it was fine, though I was totally traumatized by the Pirates of the Caribbean exhibit. I went to DisneyWorld with a friend when I was 23 and had an absolute blast (and confronted my Pirates fears), and I think my kids can wait til they're bigger, too. As long as we're living in Europe, they have to settle for trips to Rome, Athens, Paris...poor deprived souls.

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We have been to Paris 3 times now... in two month intervals... the first time my little ones were 3 mos. and 1.3, then 3 and 4 and then 5 and 6. We witnessed everything from manifestations (college students protesting the government), car burnings to Martha Stewart... yep, she interviewed my son...

They see things differently. It helped to find parks at every opportunity, and the occasional ice cream bribe got me through a museum or two. But they deffinatley have their favorites... the Hippopotamus resturant... they are all over and come with crayons !!!

It really helped us to make friends with the locals, play I spy at the market and grocery, not too many Persians take their kids to the market and shopping. we learned "ne touche pas" VERY quickly. And I made them speak french whenever they asked for something... more water, 4 pain au chocolates s.v.p.... they learned a lot, and respected the french for being well, not english... they also love ham and cheese or nutella crepes.

I had heard they were doing away with the cart 'orange for the Metro... so double check. We skipped Euro Disney and hit the Cite des Industries, several times. There is an toy store outside, rather than an overpriced museum labled piece and the kid friendly Hippo resturant.

In the odd event of an emergency Necker Childrens hospital is great. Don't look for colorful bandaids or a lot of English... but they were great, even gave out hugs. (My son stepped on my daughters toe, ripping off the side requiring stitches). :>

If you really want a tour in English, in any museum don't be afraid to ask... they really want to share...with children...they are a great excuse. We also had an apartment with the bonus of tv... they have a great kids channel Piwi...some of our favorites, but Dora speaks French and English!
If you need an English break there is a book store by the Louver... kids books are upstairs.

good luck! Enjoy your family time, that's really what it's all about.
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