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Old 06-16-2005, 05:58 AM   #1
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these are just a few photos from my trip

some of the remainding Berlin Wall





the new jewish memorial in Berlin



a windmill in Potsdam



the memorial pond at birkenau

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Old 06-16-2005, 06:28 AM   #2
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very nice. is that where the topography of terror is? it's too bad they couldn't get it together to have a proper exhibit there.
I thought that memorial was really awful. I guess what's one person's art is another's trash.

Birkenau was sobering and overwhemling.
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i think it may have been there were alot of people queuing to go underneath. I think its a very clever peice of art while it looks like a regular block of stones from afar once you walk through the columns you realise that the ground is irregular and i think this is meant to symbolise the irregular policies of Hitler (just my opinion - maybe i think too much!)

While I was at Birkenau there was about 100 members of the israeli army there in full uniform i found this very off-putting as i would do with any "army" there (once again maybe i think too much)
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when I was there it wasn't quite finished....I read the little info board there and took a look out over it...didn't really stir up any feelings for me...walking through it may be different.

there were a lot of israeli army when I was at auschwitz/birkenau as well. maybe it's required of them to go.
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probably a required trip, since military service is mandatory in Israel, it would pay to remind the troops exactly why they have a mandatory Army!

(Btw, Beergal, most soldiers are simply normal people, just employed differently... there's no real reason to avoid them, unless you're in south america somewhere...)
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Out of curiosity, what is that new Jewish memorial in Berlin? I was trying to tell what it is exactly, it looks like a bunch of those stone slabs all over but what is the symbolism?

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^ It looks like a bunch of unmarked graves to me. Apropos.
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^ It looks like a bunch of unmarked graves to me.* Apropos.*
That is what I was kind of thinking but couldn't really make it out if it was or not.

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monsignor i think it would have been better if armed force members didnt wear their uniform in a place like birkenau but like i said thats my opinion on a matter of respect and 'taste'

yeah the jewish memorial is stone slabs i cant remember what someone called it in german but when the memorial first went up tourists were apparently stone hopping them
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