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12-18-2005, 04:05 PM
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Ok kids I just realized last night that the DoD hires tons of civi's for overseas employment but I can't figure out how it works.
Do you have to be in country to get the job?
Or just apply and let the government take care of the rest?
Cause hell I would work at a burger king on base in germany if it meant I got to live and work over there.
Help me solve the riddle!
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12-18-2005, 04:40 PM
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Have you seen this website yet: DOD Job Search?
I'm doing a search on it now. Useful info to find out.
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12-18-2005, 06:18 PM
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yeah i've been searching on there for gigs but I can't understand the requirements.
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12-18-2005, 09:17 PM
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What I've heard is that they pay well, but are hard to land.
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12-18-2005, 09:28 PM
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Here's the deal, though, most of the unskilled jobs they usually hire the help locally. The Americans that work overseas are in installation support positions, such as the guys running the warehouse that handles the parts for military vehicles (Class 9 warehouse). Many of these types of jobs are not direct DoD hires, rather they're hired through contract companies.
Many of the positions that are directly hired by DoD are positions that require skills that many people gain from their military experience.
One way to get overseas positions in the DoD is to find a position working stateside, first. The people that manage the PX (military department store) are often deployed worldwide, manning PX facilities everywhere from germany to the middle east...
If you're working stateside, it's much easier to find about positions elsewhere, and you're in the system, so it's easier for overseas managers to get an idea bout your performance, etc..
It's kinda like the post office, it's a bit hard to get in, but once you're there, it's easier to find a location you want.
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12-18-2005, 09:35 PM
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Don't cut the red wire...
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Quote:
Originally posted by lizz@Dec 18 2005, 05:40 PM
Have you seen this website yet: DOD Job Search?
I'm doing a search on it now. Useful info to find out.
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That site isn't really DoD specific, it's more a general job site, like Monster.com...
It's designed for separating service members looking for work, so the requirements are likely to be geared towards military...
Try this one, instead:
Go-defense.com civilian jobs...
good luck, guys...
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12-18-2005, 10:15 PM
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awesome, looks like they have opportunities for students there!
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12-19-2005, 05:37 AM
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You almost invariably have to have a Bachelor's degree and several years experience with the Gov in whatever field they're hiring before they hire you overseas; they drastically cut costs by hiring local labor at local rates.
But if you do get a job with them overseas (especially in a country with no military base, like...I dunno...say...Israel? ), they REALLY hook it up. Free housing (and I'm not talkin a shack, either...most of the housing would run a regular civilian several thousand dollars a month easy...downtown condos and/or 4 story homes 3 blocks from the beach, etc), free utilities, diplomatic status and immunity from prosecution, etc.
Plus they give you additional bonuses in addition to free housing--localization pay, hardship pay and danger pay (in dangerous and difficult places, of course...the Middle East, Central Asia, Africa, etc...fun places to live but pretty difficult to live with amenities and with the lifestyle you can get in Europe or America, and often times with considerable risk to your life from terrorism and civil disturbance given the status you get as a diplomat)
All in all it's not a bad gig...or...so I've uh...heard...
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12-19-2005, 05:44 AM
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Oh and anything else you wanna know, IM me...I sent you my info.
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12-19-2005, 09:31 AM
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The jobs sound like the benefits are pretty cool to them actually. Plus speaking of benefits, with the military you get paid vaca, sick time, health insurance, etc etc to add to the list too.
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12-20-2005, 03:15 PM
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Yeah you need to have a degree to get a good job, the lower-level AAFES jobs (PX clerks, Burger King, car wash, etc.) are too easy to fill with military family members that are already living overseas.
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12-21-2005, 03:25 PM
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If you need any help translating, you know where to find all of us. Jake, what are you looking for in particular? Depending on how flexible you are, there are plenty of jobs available if you are persistant in the application. Might I also add that there are plenty of jobs overseas... like Germany, Italy, Korea, Japan, and so forth.
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12-21-2005, 09:43 PM
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mmmmmmm burger king
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