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Old 04-22-2007, 07:50 PM   #1
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Default Itinerary for Greece-Turkey-Syria-Spain (or maybe not Syria)

Hey tpunks, I have two choices for my trips:

Greece-Turkey-Syria-Spain

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Greece-Turkey-Spain (spend more time in Turkey, and costs $500 bucks less)

Which one would you choose?


GREECE-TURKEY-SYRIA-SPAIN
16-Jun Toronto-London-Athens 17-Jun Athens 18-Jun Athens-Pireus-Ios 19-Jun Ios 20-Jun Ios-Samos 21-Jun Samos 22-Jun Samos-Kusadasi 23-Jun Ephesus 24-Jun Selkuk 25-Jun Bergama 26-Jun Bergama 27-Jun Gelilbolu 28-Jun Gelibolu-Istanbul 29-Jun Istanbul 30-Jun Istanbul 1-Jul Istanbul-Bursa 2-Jul Istanbul 3-Jul Istanbul 4-Jul Damascus 5-Jul Damascus 6-Jul Damascus 7-Jul Damascus 8-Jul Damascus-Madrid-Pamplona 9-Jul Pamplona 10-Jul Pamplona 11-Jul San Sabastian 12-Jul San Sabastian 13-Jul Bilbao 14-Jul Bilbao-London-Toronto









GREECE-TURKEY-SPAIN


16-Jun Toronto-London-Athens 17-Jun Athens 18-Jun Athens-Pireus-Ios 19-Jun Ios 20-Jun Ios-Samos 21-Jun Samos 22-Jun Samos-Kusadasi 23-Jun Kusadasi-Ephesus 24-Jun Ephesus 25-Jun Selkuk 26-Jun Selkik 27-Jun Ismir 28-Jun Ismir 29-Jun Bergama 30-Jun Gelilbolu 1-Jul Gelilbolu 2-Jul Gelibolu-Istanbul 3-Jul Istanbul 4-Jul Istanbul 5-Jul Istanbul-Bursa 6-Jul Istanbul 7-Jul Istanbul 8-Jul Istanbul 9-Jul Pamplona 10-Jul Pamplona 11-Jul San Sabastian 12-Jul San Sabastian 13-Jul Bilbao 14-Jul Bilbao-London-Toronto
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FIRST TRIP (2005): FIRST EUROTRIP EVER! UK, France, Spain, Italy, Germany, Holland
SECOND TRIP (2007): First Solo Trip! Greece, Turkey, Syria, Spain
2008: China (Beijing, Shanghai, Yangshuo) ...right before the Olympics!
2009: Japan & HK, Southern Spain
[size=1]2010: All over Lebanon, Ibiza (Spain), Oktoberfest (Germany), Thailand.
2011: India (Goa), Jordan, Jerusalem, San Sebastian (Spain), Amsterdam (again), London, Driving from Vancouver to L.A. (stopping in Portland, Seattle, San Fran and all the little stops), Montpellier (France), Geneva and Lausanne (Switzerland)

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Old 04-22-2007, 07:53 PM   #2
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Damn Excel.

Sorry, here's a more readable version:

#1
16-Jun Toronto-London-Athens
17-Jun Athens
18-Jun Athens-Pireus-Ios
19-Jun Ios
20-Jun Ios-Samos
21-Jun Samos
22-Jun Samos-Kusadasi
23-Jun Ephesus
24-Jun Selkuk
25-Jun Bergama
26-Jun Bergama
27-Jun Gelilbolu
28-Jun Gelibolu-Istanbul
29-Jun Istanbul
30-Jun Istanbul
1-Jul Istanbul-Bursa
2-Jul Istanbul
3-Jul Istanbul
4-Jul Damascus
5-Jul Damascus
6-Jul Damascus
7-Jul Damascus
8-Jul Damascus-Madrid-Pamplona
9-Jul Pamplona
10-Jul Pamplona
11-Jul San Sabastian
12-Jul San Sabastian
13-Jul Bilbao
14-Jul Bilbao-London-Toronto




#2
16-Jun Toronto-London-Athens
17-Jun Athens
18-Jun Athens-Pireus-Ios
19-Jun Ios
20-Jun Ios-Samos
21-Jun Samos
22-Jun Samos-Kusadasi
23-Jun Kusadasi-Ephesus
24-Jun Ephesus
25-Jun Selkuk
26-Jun Selkik
27-Jun Ismir
28-Jun Ismir
29-Jun Bergama
30-Jun Gelilbolu
1-Jul Gelilbolu
2-Jul Gelibolu-Istanbul
3-Jul Istanbul
4-Jul Istanbul
5-Jul Istanbul-Bursa
6-Jul Istanbul
7-Jul Istanbul
8-Jul Istanbul
9-Jul Pamplona
10-Jul Pamplona
11-Jul San Sabastian
12-Jul San Sabastian
13-Jul Bilbao
14-Jul Bilbao-London-Toronto
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Vincent: "So what you gonna do?"
Jules: "Well, basically, I'm just gonna walk the earth."
Vincent: "What you mean 'walk the earth'?"
Jules: "You know, like Kane in 'Kung Fu'...go places...meet people...get in adventures."

Trips (only counting recreational travel):
FIRST TRIP (2005): FIRST EUROTRIP EVER! UK, France, Spain, Italy, Germany, Holland
SECOND TRIP (2007): First Solo Trip! Greece, Turkey, Syria, Spain
2008: China (Beijing, Shanghai, Yangshuo) ...right before the Olympics!
2009: Japan & HK, Southern Spain
[size=1]2010: All over Lebanon, Ibiza (Spain), Oktoberfest (Germany), Thailand.
2011: India (Goa), Jordan, Jerusalem, San Sebastian (Spain), Amsterdam (again), London, Driving from Vancouver to L.A. (stopping in Portland, Seattle, San Fran and all the little stops), Montpellier (France), Geneva and Lausanne (Switzerland)

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Old 04-22-2007, 08:06 PM   #3
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I like the 1st one :D
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Old 04-23-2007, 06:12 AM   #4
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It's a tough tradeoff: damascus or seeing more towns in Turkey..
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Vincent: "So what you gonna do?"
Jules: "Well, basically, I'm just gonna walk the earth."
Vincent: "What you mean 'walk the earth'?"
Jules: "You know, like Kane in 'Kung Fu'...go places...meet people...get in adventures."

Trips (only counting recreational travel):
FIRST TRIP (2005): FIRST EUROTRIP EVER! UK, France, Spain, Italy, Germany, Holland
SECOND TRIP (2007): First Solo Trip! Greece, Turkey, Syria, Spain
2008: China (Beijing, Shanghai, Yangshuo) ...right before the Olympics!
2009: Japan & HK, Southern Spain
[size=1]2010: All over Lebanon, Ibiza (Spain), Oktoberfest (Germany), Thailand.
2011: India (Goa), Jordan, Jerusalem, San Sebastian (Spain), Amsterdam (again), London, Driving from Vancouver to L.A. (stopping in Portland, Seattle, San Fran and all the little stops), Montpellier (France), Geneva and Lausanne (Switzerland)

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Oh man I hate you so much for that trip!! I also like the first one... I have never met anyone who has went to Syria before, and I do not think many people even consider it for a trip. I think it would be a great experience, and I expect to see some pictures ! Of course, that extra 500$ could come in useful....
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Ahhh! I just emailed you.

You DO NOT need three days in Gallipoli!!! And it's good that you're already using the Turkish name because the Turks will laugh at you if you say it in English!

And on your last day in Istanbul, go to a hamam!! So cool. It will be refreshing after the treks around all that city dirt and day-tripping. Will you try to go to Aleppo or Palmyra?

I'm with the crowd: Sy-ri-a! Sy-ri-a!
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haha... thanks Jess.

I'm actually surpised, I thought the tpunk collective would favour exploring small towns and spending more time in a region and knocking down costs... but I guess Syria is a good reason in itself.

Hmm... maybe I can shave off that $500 from somehwere else.

It is possible to get flights from London-Athens for under $200????

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Vincent: "So what you gonna do?"
Jules: "Well, basically, I'm just gonna walk the earth."
Vincent: "What you mean 'walk the earth'?"
Jules: "You know, like Kane in 'Kung Fu'...go places...meet people...get in adventures."

Trips (only counting recreational travel):
FIRST TRIP (2005): FIRST EUROTRIP EVER! UK, France, Spain, Italy, Germany, Holland
SECOND TRIP (2007): First Solo Trip! Greece, Turkey, Syria, Spain
2008: China (Beijing, Shanghai, Yangshuo) ...right before the Olympics!
2009: Japan & HK, Southern Spain
[size=1]2010: All over Lebanon, Ibiza (Spain), Oktoberfest (Germany), Thailand.
2011: India (Goa), Jordan, Jerusalem, San Sebastian (Spain), Amsterdam (again), London, Driving from Vancouver to L.A. (stopping in Portland, Seattle, San Fran and all the little stops), Montpellier (France), Geneva and Lausanne (Switzerland)

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haha... thanks Jess.

I'm actually surpised, I thought the tpunk collective would favour exploring small towns and spending more time in a region and knocking down costs... but I guess Syria is a good reason in itself.

Hmm... maybe I can shave off that $500 from somehwere else.

It is possible to get flights from London-Athens for under $200????

I know I was messing around looking at flights a few weeks ago and found one from london to Rome for a penny.... I dunno if that would help you though...
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Might not help, but I am flying Swiss Air from Amsterdam to Athens for 200 euro. Londons cheap like Schipol to fly out of so hopefully you will get lucky. Check out all the major European airlines and see what deals they have going on. Good luck
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Actually just booked my flight to Athens.... about $150 Canadian, not too shabby...
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Vincent: "So what you gonna do?"
Jules: "Well, basically, I'm just gonna walk the earth."
Vincent: "What you mean 'walk the earth'?"
Jules: "You know, like Kane in 'Kung Fu'...go places...meet people...get in adventures."

Trips (only counting recreational travel):
FIRST TRIP (2005): FIRST EUROTRIP EVER! UK, France, Spain, Italy, Germany, Holland
SECOND TRIP (2007): First Solo Trip! Greece, Turkey, Syria, Spain
2008: China (Beijing, Shanghai, Yangshuo) ...right before the Olympics!
2009: Japan & HK, Southern Spain
[size=1]2010: All over Lebanon, Ibiza (Spain), Oktoberfest (Germany), Thailand.
2011: India (Goa), Jordan, Jerusalem, San Sebastian (Spain), Amsterdam (again), London, Driving from Vancouver to L.A. (stopping in Portland, Seattle, San Fran and all the little stops), Montpellier (France), Geneva and Lausanne (Switzerland)

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I'm actually surpised, I thought the tpunk collective would favour exploring small towns and spending more time in a region and knocking down costs...
Totally! I think as a whole we are. But also look at the tremendous amount of time a lot of people her spend away. There's some sort of hierarchical site-seeing thingie where the top tier is what you see when you're taking a day/weekend trip, next is when you're doing a "vacation" (in my mind 7-14 days), an extended vackay (2-6 weeks) and then up from there (maybe studying abroad or an exchange 6 weeks-6 months, then lifestyle traveling which I would say is longer). I'm sure the person who takes a weekend trip to Damascus (well, number one is not coming from Canada ) is going to see a lot of different things than the person who is spending a year traveling around the world or a region. My friends who did Istanbul with me for a day and a half (they had an extra day without me) did not see nearly as much as I did when I stayed for over a week in the same central location, but we all "saw" Istanbul.
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Totally! I think as a whole we are. But also look at the tremendous amount of time a lot of people her spend away. There's some sort of hierarchical site-seeing thingie where the top tier is what you see when you're taking a day/weekend trip, next is when you're doing a "vacation" (in my mind 7-14 days), an extended vackay (2-6 weeks) and then up from there (maybe studying abroad or an exchange 6 weeks-6 months, then lifestyle traveling which I would say is longer). I'm sure the person who takes a weekend trip to Damascus (well, number one is not coming from Canada ) is going to see a lot of different things than the person who is spending a year traveling around the world or a region. My friends who did Istanbul with me for a day and a half (they had an extra day without me) did not see nearly as much as I did when I stayed for over a week in the same central location, but we all "saw" Istanbul.

True all that...

which reminds me, I still gotta book my Damascus flight. Actually first thing I should do is look into getting a Syrian visa...

Actually for some reason, quite a few people I know have been to Syria. My old boss actually worked at the Canadian embassy in Damascus for like 3 years....
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Jules: "Well, basically, I'm just gonna walk the earth."
Vincent: "What you mean 'walk the earth'?"
Jules: "You know, like Kane in 'Kung Fu'...go places...meet people...get in adventures."

Trips (only counting recreational travel):
FIRST TRIP (2005): FIRST EUROTRIP EVER! UK, France, Spain, Italy, Germany, Holland
SECOND TRIP (2007): First Solo Trip! Greece, Turkey, Syria, Spain
2008: China (Beijing, Shanghai, Yangshuo) ...right before the Olympics!
2009: Japan & HK, Southern Spain
[size=1]2010: All over Lebanon, Ibiza (Spain), Oktoberfest (Germany), Thailand.
2011: India (Goa), Jordan, Jerusalem, San Sebastian (Spain), Amsterdam (again), London, Driving from Vancouver to L.A. (stopping in Portland, Seattle, San Fran and all the little stops), Montpellier (France), Geneva and Lausanne (Switzerland)

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I just called up the Syrian embassy and it looks like visas won't be too much trouble... but it costs $75 bucks!

Man, now I know why they're in the axis of evil.... baaa-zing! :D
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Vincent: "So what you gonna do?"
Jules: "Well, basically, I'm just gonna walk the earth."
Vincent: "What you mean 'walk the earth'?"
Jules: "You know, like Kane in 'Kung Fu'...go places...meet people...get in adventures."

Trips (only counting recreational travel):
FIRST TRIP (2005): FIRST EUROTRIP EVER! UK, France, Spain, Italy, Germany, Holland
SECOND TRIP (2007): First Solo Trip! Greece, Turkey, Syria, Spain
2008: China (Beijing, Shanghai, Yangshuo) ...right before the Olympics!
2009: Japan & HK, Southern Spain
[size=1]2010: All over Lebanon, Ibiza (Spain), Oktoberfest (Germany), Thailand.
2011: India (Goa), Jordan, Jerusalem, San Sebastian (Spain), Amsterdam (again), London, Driving from Vancouver to L.A. (stopping in Portland, Seattle, San Fran and all the little stops), Montpellier (France), Geneva and Lausanne (Switzerland)

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I found a much cheaper way to get to Damascus from Istanbul (without paying Turkish airlines $500!)

Turns out you can take the flight down domestically to south of Turkey to the city of Antalya which is close to Syria. From there you can just catch a bus to Aleppo (3 hours), and then to Damscus from there (4 hours).

This is good, it lets me stay in Aleppo for 2 nights, which promises to be interesting... heard there are great Crusader castles there.

Anyway, good info if anyone else is planning on heading to Syria...
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Vincent: "So what you gonna do?"
Jules: "Well, basically, I'm just gonna walk the earth."
Vincent: "What you mean 'walk the earth'?"
Jules: "You know, like Kane in 'Kung Fu'...go places...meet people...get in adventures."

Trips (only counting recreational travel):
FIRST TRIP (2005): FIRST EUROTRIP EVER! UK, France, Spain, Italy, Germany, Holland
SECOND TRIP (2007): First Solo Trip! Greece, Turkey, Syria, Spain
2008: China (Beijing, Shanghai, Yangshuo) ...right before the Olympics!
2009: Japan & HK, Southern Spain
[size=1]2010: All over Lebanon, Ibiza (Spain), Oktoberfest (Germany), Thailand.
2011: India (Goa), Jordan, Jerusalem, San Sebastian (Spain), Amsterdam (again), London, Driving from Vancouver to L.A. (stopping in Portland, Seattle, San Fran and all the little stops), Montpellier (France), Geneva and Lausanne (Switzerland)

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I just called up the Syrian embassy and it looks like visas won't be too much trouble... but it costs $75 bucks!

Man, now I know why they're in the axis of evil.... baaa-zing! :D
Yeah, well, when I went to Turkey (our *European* friends!!) a Turkish tourist visa for Americans was $100 OR 100 farging Euros!! I had been in Germany for 2.5 months by then and was struggling to remember what a dollar looked like, and then I got bent over on the exchange rate!!

...but I got a really purty visa! Anyway, I freaking out excitedly for you.
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