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Old 01-10-2007, 03:34 PM   #1
 
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Here is the itinerary I have come up with for my trip that will start on March 5th

March 5th,6th
fly into Frankfurt, 2 days in Frankfurt

March 8th
Frankfurt --> Munich
3 days in Munich

March 11th
Munich --> Salzburg
2 days in Salzburg

March 13th
Salzburg --> Vienna
2 weeks in Vienna

March 27th
Vienna --> Venice
2 days in Venice

March 29th
Venice --> Florence
3 days in Florence

April 1st
Florence --> Rome
7 days in Rome

April 8th
Rome --> Rimini
3 days in Rimini

April 11th
Rimini --> Bolgna
2 days in Blogna

April 13th
Bolgna --> Nurenburg
3 days in Nurenburg

April 16th
Nurenburg --> Berlin
7 days in Berlin

April 23rd
Berlin --> Dusseldorf
2 days in Dusseldorf

April 25th
Dusseldorf --> Brussels
4 days in Brussels

I don't know where to go or how to fill out my itinerary that will end on May 17th in Frankfurt.
I really appreicate your input, thanks
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Old 01-10-2007, 07:26 PM   #2
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Mike,

Have you considered Spain? You can stretch your money out there a bit more than in Germany (though not as well as Eastern Europe) and you can see a lot of variety, beaches (Malaga), mountains (Granada), cities from the middle ages (Avila and Toledo), trendy cosmopolitan cities (Madrid and Barcelona) etc.

Also, 2 weeks in Vienna seems like a lot unless you have family/friends there. I think 3-4 days is probably enough, maybe an even week if you want to make a side trip or two to Bratislava (about an hour away by train). Prague isn't too far, and neither is Budapest. Of course maybe you are just marking that down because you want to stay put for a little while since at that point you have been bouncing around a lot.

Let me recommend that you ask around Schoenbrunn palace because they hold concerts there, weekly( or nightly?) I ended up catching a Mozart/Strauss concert in the Grand Hall (though I think those are more rare, once a month or thereabouts). The Wombat has two hostels and judging from their Munich city and Vienna city locations I am sure the Lounge is great also.

Belgium is more than just Brussels. Brugges, Ghent, Antwerp, Oostende are worth seeing worth seeing even if it is just a day trip. It looks like you completely skipped out on France but you may want to add a few days there.

23 days is a lot of time. In two weeks I saw Seville, Florence/Pisa, Torino, Venice, Rome, Pompei, Munich and Paris. That was fairly whirlwind and I only spent 8 hours on a train layover in Paris, a day in Torino, a day in Venice all while my backpack was in my Florence Hostel :D

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I have family in Vienna that's why I am staying there for 2 weeks and also I dislocated my knee so I have to stay in some cities longer to rest my knee. Spain seems like a good idea, I heard the train fares are very cheap.
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I have family in Vienna that's why I am staying there for 2 weeks and also I dislocated my knee so I have to stay in some cities longer to rest my knee. Spain seems like a good idea, I heard the train fares are very cheap.
Absolutely you want to rest your knee! And yes the trains are fairly cheap, in fact I would NOT recommend the Eurail pass. Let's say you use the 10 days in 2 months option. From Sevilla to Granada is only 28 euros, and with the 10 day plan it is 40. In order to make that work out, you need to do trips such as Barcelona to Cadiz (50 Euros) or be making aggressive day trips. Since the traditional way to travel is city to city (short hops) I am skeptical about the need for a pass. Spain's bus system is pretty good especially for navigating in Andalucia.

In Germany however, get that pass! Frankfurt to Koln is 60 euros one way! Schiesse mein freunde!

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What about the trains in Italy, are they close to the price for the spansih trains?
Anybody been to Rimini, I heard it's the Ibizia of the Adriatic
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Italian trains are cheap (perhaps not as cheap). Venice to Bologna was 21 Euros Venice to Rome was 40 Euros.

The ES trains are nicer and faster but usually more expensive (typically the difference is about 20% on both counts) and unless you specify otherwise it will be what they sell you.

I wouldn't recommend a rail pass in Italy or Spain (but if you get a 3 country pass or something like that maybe it is worth including them and worse comes to worse you can use it for one long journey)

Btw in Spain, trains require reservations (Italy requires them for ES trains I think... can someone verify that?)

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I live in Pisa and have never needed a reservation for any train service. That being said, I had to stand for an 8 hour train ride coming back from Torino because I failed to reserve a seat.

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I don't know if this will help you or not, but I found this website called railsaver.com that tells you if point-to-point tickets are cheaper, rail passes (which ones as well) or a combintation of both. ES tickets for Italy do require a reservation and I noticed they were often 15 to 20 euro. I don't know if this helps your decision on where to go, but if I can save you some money I will feel all squishy and nice inside .
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hey mike,

i was in italy this past summer and spent 2 days in riccione which is next to rimini. i've never been to ibizia, however, i don't know that i would call that area a comparison. i was there in august and it was hot and lots of sexy, young kids at the beach.
i went from florence to riccione and thought about stopping in bologna, but because i was there in the summer, i decided against it. from riccione i went up to milan for two days which wasn't bad.
the beach was really nice and the water was great. lots to do as for clubs, bars, etc. it was a nice little rest while traveling around the boot.
also, i was in rome for 5 days at the start of my trip and then another 4 at the end and i have to say, 7 seems like a long time to be in rome unless you around going to do a trip or two outside of the city? tivoli or down to pompii is a bit long, but possible in a day. you can see all of rome in 4 days...i think.
i'm around if you have any questions about the boot!
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When you see like 7 days or so at one city that basically means that I am going to be using that city as a home base to see other places around like Rome to see Pompei or naples and Berlin to Potsdam and Vienna to see Budapest or Bratislava. Thanks to everyone for the ideas, I really appreciate it alot.
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Here is an update of my interary
Fly into Frankfurt on March 7th
March 9th Frankfurt ------> Vienna
7 days in Vienna
March 16th Vienna -------> Venice
2 days Venice
March 18th Venice -----> Florence
4 days in Florence
March 22nd Florence -----> Rome
7 days in Rome
March 29th Rome --------> Rimini (Ravenna, Bologna)
4 days Rimini (Ravenna, Bologna)
April 2nd Rimini(Ravenna, Bologna) ------> Salzburg
3 days in Salzburg
April 5th Salzburg -----> Vienna
4 days in Vienna
April 9th Vienna -----> Munich
3 days in Munich
April 12th Munich ------> Nurnberg
3 days in Nurnburg
April 15th Nurnberg -------> Leipzig/Dresden
3 days in Leipig/Dresden
April 18th Leipzig/Dresden -----> Berlin
7 days in Berlin
April 25th Berlin --------> Hamburg/ Bremen
4 days in Hamburg/ Bremen
April 29th Hamburg/ Bremen -->Amsterdam
3 days in Amsterdam
May 2ndAmsterdam --->Rotterdam
2 days in Rotterdam
May 4th Rotterdam ------->Antwerp
2 days in Antwerp
May 6th Antwerp ---------> Brussels
3 days in Brussels
May 9th Brussels -------->Bastogne
1 day in Bastogne
May 10th Bastogne --------> Luxembourg City
2 days in Luxembourg City
May 12th Luxembourg City ---------> Cologne
4 days in Cologne
May 16th Cologne ---------> Frankfurt
Fly out of Frankfurt on May 17th
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The plan looks GREAT, but you might want to consider heading out to Ghent or Brugge, rather than spending 3 days in Brussels. I was in the area in November and found that both of these spots topped Brussels, hands down.
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In two weeks you're off to Europe !

I spent 6 weeks in Bremen for an intensive german course. Pretty city, but outside visiting the old town, there isn't much to do, and the night life is barely existant. Maybe spend more time in Hamburg ?
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I forgot : you can visit Beck's factory !
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sweet that i'll go nicely before i go to the heinken factory in amsterdam
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