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**MeTurk** · 02-16-2006, 08:09 AM

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No, they'd probably just play dumb and admit the minimally obvious, but not much more than that. Expect a heavily whitewashed version full of misinformation

The problem there is your generalising the worlds responce to what the American media and government will say. On a world political stage I'm sure America would be in for a ruff time if the Aliens look like the greys we've all become used to seeing on TV.

I still think that's a major problem with the theory (US cover up) that the Aliens decided to only make contact with the US, that they've never crashed outside the US and that they've never tried to make deals with any other country. It seems completely localised to America. They leave to many holes in their cover up, like steeling cows mutilating them then leaving them back for everyone to see.

The theorys filled out allot and there's tons of evidence there (some of those pics did looked fake though there was something about the lighting on the ships that looked wrong) it could all be true but,.. and I hate to put it this way but in general Americans tend to panick about things and almost hope for the worst. Ye seem to be dieing for Armagedon to come along.

I fully accept I could be wrong I mean I practicly live in the middle of a field surrounded by people still trying to figure out where the internet is, most think Window XP and the internet are one and the same and constantly worry that when they turn off the PC they'll wipe the internet off their PC. I've given up trying to explane it to them it's easier to dismiss it as magic.

**voyd** · 02-16-2006, 08:31 AM

^ MeTurk - I am Americancentric in my focus here because...well I live here. But that doesn't mean that UFO incidents are localized here. They happen all over. I just am simply not well-attuned to how other countries have dealt with UFOs.

However, here's a link to alleged crashes in Australia - a very large country with lots of remote areas. And cattle mutilations are also WORLDWIDE - and for some odd reason, no human perpetrator has EVER been caught.

This is similar to crop circles - which ALSO occur worldwide - and while some have been disproven as manmade hoaxes - many have not.

Now, why might some aliens have chosen to make a deal with the US, in particular? Perhaps that's where their bases happened to be? Perhaps because we were the world superpower at the time who first developed the nuke - and there is also plenty of open territory in our huge landmass? Who knows? But, who else would they deal with - Lithuania?

And as far as those UFO photos looking "fake," I dunno - to me they look no more real or fake than a regular photo of a regular airplane in the sky?

**MeTurk** · 02-16-2006, 09:10 AM

Maybe..?

Well, we'll just have to see.

I wonder what the fall out would be if they do get proven beyound a shadow of a doubt. If their as bad as you say they are will their allys here on earth side with them or use the technoligy they got off them to mount a rebellion. Or maybe the Aliens will say they didn't know they where doing anything wrong and blame the US military for leading them astray.

Hopefully it'll all go well and their planet will be overrun by backpackers looking for cheep accomidation and a non-stop flow of questions about weather it's better to buy a billion light year intergalactic pass, is that the earth one or do you need an Alien visa??.....

JeanB · 02-17-2006, 04:52 AM

Lets face it everyone knows its pretty likely we are not alone in the universe. What would make our planet so special amongst millions of others. And yes they are here, and they are watching us, and if they have nefarious intent, then i'm pretty sure they will have tried to manipulate world events. I mean do any of you actually believe the crap thats forced down our throats from the media monopolies. The thoughts of the masses have been controlled for at least a hundred years. The question is should we blame aliens, or should we hunt the likelier suspect, our own government. Or should we go a step farther and blame ourselves, since we are complicit in a scenario where we know what is wrong yet do nothing about it..........

What have we done to challenge the (new or old?) world order?

**voyd** · 02-17-2006, 06:53 AM

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Originally posted by JeanB@Feb 17 2006, 06:52 AM
I mean do any of you actually believe the crap thats forced down our throats from the media monopolies. The thoughts of the masses have been controlled for at least a hundred years. The question is should we blame aliens, or should we hunt the likelier suspect, our own government. Or should we go a step farther and blame ourselves, since we are complicit in a scenario where we know what is wrong yet do nothing about it..........

What have we done to challenge the (new or old?) world order?

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Good pts...I like this guy already....lol.

Well, we can definitely spread the blame around (and accept much of it ourselves), but ultimately the reality is that there is only so much we could do anyways when faced with a vastly advanced race far "superior" to our own. We are not in a bargaining position - but are at their mercy. It is like a mouse in a snake's den.

Think about how the early European settlers wiped out the Native Americans here in the US upon arrival with guns, disease, slaughtering buffalo and broken treaties. There were about 15 million when Columbus landed - but most were gone soon after. Think about how we treat animals today as lab rats, food and for clothing purposes. Well, now WE'RE the "primitive lab rats," and can we expect any different treatment from imperialistic alien lab coats? What the hell do they care about our welfare? Nature is often a ruthless Darwinian battle between the weak and strong - wherein the strong survive and the weak perish.

JeanB · 02-19-2006, 10:38 AM

Its just like your quote from Genghis........To conquer other races, and steal their horses and goods and women. That is Best!!!! Why should we expect compassion when we have never shown any ourselves. But would you want their compassion, their pity? Would that not convince us even more of our own inferiority? I would prefer to live or die by the sword. Its the only natural way, even if we are destined to become like Geronimo, cocooned on our ''human reservations'', with the rest of our world stolen from us.........

heres a thought:
" If man must reach the outermost bounds of his possibilities, then he must also go as far as to destroy himself. For this possibility is neither the least, nor the least glorious'' (Saul Bellow).

**Rozza** · 02-19-2006, 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by JeanB@Feb 19 2006, 06:38 PM
But would you want their compassion, their pity? Would that not convince us even more of our own inferiority?
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Dont cut your nose to spite your face, if an inferiority complex is the price of being ignored by some bad ass aliens (not that i'm important enough to have an inferiority complex

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did these aliens appear during or after the Anunnaki? or are they the same?

JeanB · 02-19-2006, 03:51 PM

Spose so.........Its a tricky one really. You see the difficulty lies in the analysis of gifts and exchange. If you like, any piece of love or affection or alternatively hate and violence is a gift that according to symbolic law, must be returned in kind......and the stakes upped. If they did show compassion, we would have to return it, but the chances are that we are not up to the job......and hence inferior

Regarding the Anunaki, i thought they were the alien half breed lizards who occupy all the top posts on the planet. The president, the monarchy in the UK, the media, etc etc...... But then again, all this information i gleaned from an ex Coventry City goalkeeper. what do i know?

**voyd** · 02-27-2006, 07:31 AM

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Originally posted by Rozza@Feb 19 2006, 04:21 PM

did these aliens appear during or after the Anunnaki? or are they the same?
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I'm not really sure which "breed" the Anunnaki are - as there are supposedly well over a dozen types here now. Good question, maybe someone can research that one?

MeTurk - is this more similar to what you saw? These were filmed Oct 20, 2005 over the UK:

**MeTurk** · 02-27-2006, 08:52 AM

The one everyone in the country got a look at was three solid bright lights, they look more like the one I saw when I where a young nip with their flashy lights at each corner.

**Canadian Dude** · 03-31-2006, 05:06 PM

Voyd, you rule!!!!

**voyd** · 04-05-2006, 06:00 PM

Check out the video here under Monday, March 20 (from about 11:07-12:43) about how they digitally-enhanced an old file photo of the papers AF Gen. Ramey at Roswell was holding after the alleged UF0 crash there in 1947 as he publically claimed they were weather balloons instead...

What were some of the key phrases found on it?

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"the victims of the wreck"
"In the 'disk' they will ship."