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Old 07-24-2005, 12:46 AM   #1
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Hay i am just looking at doing the Trans-Siberian has anyone done it before i was looking at a company called vodkatrain webite is www.vodkatrain.com has anyone ever travelled with this company before or any others as i am looking for advice on it cheers
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Are you set on going with a package company?

Why not do it on your own?You`d save a alot that way and would`nt be tied down as much.

I`m off in a few weeks myself - from sweden to vladivostok and back to ireland!
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I`m off in a few weeks myself - from sweden to vladivostok and back to ireland!
Details, please...! How long will you be gone? And what countries does your rail itinerary cross into? Sounds interesting...

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I am not really set on a tour company i just didn't know how cheap you can do it for can you give us an idea of how much it will cost to do.
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I have`nt done the trip myself yet - but i was looking into it last year....when i wanted to go then(but did`nt).

I first started looking at the organised trips/packages etc...the voidkatrain one is 1600 euro for 21 days right?
The package deals attracted me first due to my lack of knowledge about Russia, a bit of fear and uncertainty i guess - and the language barrier also.But the cost!Wow!So i read up more and more, until the whole place seemed more familiar and less threatening...knowing how cheap rail travel is over there, i`d rather go this route and buy them myself....
So i have the visa sorted out - a business visa which does me for 3 months.
I`m staying in hostels/budget accomadation - averaging around 20 euro per night(i`m having trouble with Moscow when it comes to this though!).

I`ll be training it around the place, starting in St. Pete(after i come from Sweden/estonia by ferry/train of course), going to Archangelsk, back to Moscow and on the trans-siberian stopping off here and there all the way to Ulan Ude, spending 3 weeks camping there, onto Vladivostok to chill out and THEN all the way back to Tallinn/estonia by train.

I`ll be buying train tickets myself at stations going from one place to the next.
Travelling either Kupe or Platzkart(for the shorter jaunts) - these are like 2nd/3rd class/beds: From Tallinn to St pete this will be approx 20 euro.
From St Pete to Archangelsk(WAY up north!) - not sure!About 30 euro i reakon.Then back to Moscow, another 20 maybe.From Moscow to Irkutsk its 50 euro i`ve been told, or about 60/70euro if stopping off along the way, which i`ll definately be doing!
And from Irkutsk to Ulan Ude is 200 or so rubles(6 euro!).And from Ulan Ude to Vladivostok its...well i`m not TOTALLY 100% sure about the prices but you get the idea, i reakon 20 euro would do that jaunt too.
So roughly 170 euro for that.
Then coming back from Vlad to St Pete - cheaper as Archangelsk won`t be included...approx 150 total?
So...thats my rough estimate of the whole lot!I`d rather do it this way also as its more of a challange/rewarding, i like doing things myself, and i might pick up some of the language!

Anyone who HAS done this trip already....if i`m totally offf the mark here concerning my estimates, please tell us!!!
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Wow cheers mate that sounds so much better thanks a lot you have been heaps of help
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20 euros for hostels in Russia? Wow, that's disappointing...I would have thought they'd be cheaper. Well, Moscow and St. Pete, I understand being more expensive...

Sounds like you have a great route all lined up, Rimbaud! Let us know more as you find out (or do it -- then we'll want reports and pics!!!).

My Russian experience is so tame (or lame?) in comparison: 2 nights in St. Pete as part of a Baltic cruise...

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My Russian experience is so tame (or lame?) in comparison: 2 nights in St. Pete as part of a Baltic cruise...

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Ha!Thats more than my russian experience so far!Trying to read Cyrillic street signs in Belgrade is the nearest i`ve got!

20 euro seems to be the price for hostels in St. Pete/Moscow.I think i also included hostels for Sweden/helsinki/Tallinn in that price bracket.
The hostel infrastructure is`nt very developed in alot of russian cities east of moscow - but i know a few places that will be 8-12$ per night which should ease the pain!But then theres palces like Archangelsk and Vladivostok where no hostels seem to be visable to my knowledge.

I`ll definately report back in a few weeks with more details and pictures!
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