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Old 11-25-2007, 05:28 AM   #1
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I'm wondering if the below itinerary is doable for my 22 days trip in europe in august - sep next year..

My starting and ending destination will be Vienna:

1) Upon reaching Vienna, i'll be taking an overnight train on the same day to Krawkow (Krawkow for 3 days)
2) Krawkow - Prague (by train, 3.5 days in Prague)
3) Prague - Manchester (by BMIBabby, 1 day) --> i have to be in Manchester on at least one of the saturdays
4) Manchester - Dublin (by Ryanair, 4.5 days in Dublin)
5) Dublin - Berlin (by Ryanair, 4 days in Berlin)
6) Berlin - Budapest (by Easyjet, 1.5 days in Budapest)
7) Budapest - Vienna (by train, 4 days in Vienna (including a trip to Salzburg)

i know i'm flying all over the place.. but that's the only way i can factor in the cities i want to visit.. ryanair dont fly into vienna , easyjet dont fly into dublin or manchester , BMIbaby dont fly into Berlin ... for the train, i'll be buying the European East Pass - 5 days tix.. i'm estimating the cost of the air tix and train here to be around 450 euros..

by the way, the manchester trip is a must as i wanna go for a soccer match assuming the match is on a saturday or sunday (and a home match at that!) will have to wait til when next year's schedules are out.. hehe..

any suggestions to get me out of this mess or a cheaper way to get around? or is this fine??

thanks!!
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:40 AM   #2
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Sounds great. Manchester is a good airport and a city with lots to do. I absolutely love Berlin its crammed with museums and land marks you'll have a lot to do there.
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this sort of sounds like the trip I'm taking in June.... hitting up a good bit of Germany, plus Prague, Krakow, and most likely I am flying into and out of Zurich or Frankfurt. I'm doing the rail thing the whole time, I'm not flying anywhere, but am considering flying to and from Krakow because I want to maximize my time there.

Sounds like a good trip though, good luck with your planning!!
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i know i'm flying all over the place.. but that's the only way i can factor in the cities i want to visit.. ryanair dont fly into vienna
They fly to Bratislava, Slovakia which is a 20 minute bus ride away. You can also get from Dublin to Salzburg on Ryanair (I did this in reverse). If you have never been to Munich, I think I would recommend it over Salzburg.

Just something to consider.

And yes seems very doable, have a good time

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I really enjoyed Budapest. Anytime you're in a city for less than 2 days you really don't get much more than travel time. But you might have more planned in Vienna... whatever. Good luck with the trip, looks like fun.
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thanks for the replies!!

after much consideration i have changed my itinerary as follows --> Start and End at Manchester

Manchester - (by air) Prague - (train) Krakow - (train) Vienna (Includes Salzburg) - (train) Budapest - (air) Berlin - (air) Dublin - (air) Manchester.

the cities and number of days to stay in each cities are basically the same. but i will have to time my flight according to the soccer match in manchester when the schedule for next season comes out.

do you guys recommend salzburg? i heard from few friends that its beautiful there.. but if budapest is a better choice, i might just head straight to budapest and spend a day more there.. and also, Berlin and Munich, which is more recommendable??

pinknic38 --> what type of pass will you be getting??
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I would swap Budapest and Vienna (you waste some time backtracking unless it is by night train)

Salzburg is nice but I think you can see similarly spectacular scenery in Bavaria (at Neuschwanstein for example). If you had more time I would recommend it as a dedicated stay but I think you can easily do it as a day trip from Munich. Budapest is beautiful if the weather cooperates.

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I would say cut Budapest if you're only going to spend 1.5 days there. You will be so tired and you won't see much. Allot the time to another city(ies) and I think you will find it much more enjoyable. Also unless you have something special going on in Dublin I would try to cut some days there. There isn't that much to see but there is a lot to drink!
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Berlin and Munich are both cities worth visiting, but Berlin is my favorite city in the world so I would go there over Munich. It could be more convienent to go to Munich from Austria, but if you're flying it probably won't matter.

I think the city order of your new schedule makes a lot of sense. I made the mistake of only have a day in Budapest, I definitely should have planned two or three at least.

I also agree that Dublin might be a good day to cut off a few days if you need them somewhere else. Unless you're going for the beer, there isn't much in the way of tourist attractions; I think you could see it all in a full day.
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