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Old 01-06-2006, 08:35 PM   #1
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My Backpacking Check List

[] Element Backpack (Black, w/ laptop sleeve)
[] Mini Note Book/pad
[] Power Book G4 17”
[] iPod 60 Gig (Black, w/ Battery Pack & Solar Pack)
[] Sure Fire – Flash Light, w/ Spare Parts cord
[] Charge 2 Go (for Phone & iPod Shuffle)
[] 2 Person tent (North Face)
[] Butane Stove (MSR Pocket Rocket Titan Kit)
[] Compact Sleeping Bag (North face)
[] Skate Board
[] 2 pack army food, for emergency only
[] DVD cam, Digital cam
[] DRYPAK, Water Proof Nylon Bag
[] Hydro Photon SteriPEN Ultraviolet Water Purifier
[] First Aid kit w/ snakebite kit
[] The Garmin Rino 130 GPS/radio (2 way radio w/ GPS locate your pal)


CLOTHES

[] 4 UFO pants & 4 Tees’
[] 7 Socks & Underwear
[] 1 Hat, 2 Bandanas’
[] Lightweight Sneakers (DVS or Etnies)
[] 1 Hoodie (for cold weather)
[] Sun Glasses

HYIGEAN

[] Toothbrush & paste
[] Shampoo for washing everything
[] Small towel
[] Razor, after shave & lotion kit

LITTLE THINGS

[] Key Chain Can Opener, Bottle Opener & Knife
[] Waterproof Match Case
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Old 01-07-2006, 12:45 AM   #2
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any idea how much all this weighs?

there are a few things i would ditch:

Power Book G4 17”
iPod 60 Gig (Black, w/ Battery Pack & Solar Pack)|
Charge 2 Go (for Phone & iPod Shuffle)
Butane Stove (MSR Pocket Rocket Titan Kit)
Skate Board
2 pack army food, for emergency only
The Garmin Rino 130 GPS/radio (2 way radio w/ GPS locate your pal)

but thats just me.....




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Well dude it depends what your doing, If your just gonna be packing around traveling and hitting hostels ditch all the camping gear and the stuff that chels said I would maybe keep the Ipod and the board (keep the board if your hard into it otherwise ditch it)
However if your gonna be hiking and camping and stuff like that then all the other stuff there might come in handy even the GPS, I would then dtich the skateboard, I think you forgot to mension sleeping bag, if your camping theres no real point in having a tent without a sleeping bag unless you wanna layer up and lay on the floor ?
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Originally posted by eSper+Jan 7 2006, 01:35 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(eSper @ Jan 7 2006, 01:35 PM)</div>
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My Backpacking Check List

[] Element Backpack (Black, w/ laptop sleeve)
[] Mini Note Book/pad
[] Power Book G4 17”
[] iPod 60 Gig (Black, w/ Battery Pack & Solar Pack)
[] Sure Fire – Flash Light, w/ Spare Parts cord
[] Charge 2 Go (for Phone & iPod Shuffle)
[] 2 Person tent (North Face)
[] Butane Stove (MSR Pocket Rocket Titan Kit)
Compact Sleeping Bag (North face)
[] Skate Board

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, I think you forgot to mension sleeping bag, if your camping theres no real point in having a tent without a sleeping bag unless you wanna layer up and lay on the floor ?
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Damn! That is a lot of shit. Are you posting it here for comments, or as a suggestion to others?

If you're posting for comments, I'd ditch all of the electronics except the digital still camera (it can take video clips, too) and MAYBE the iPod. If you're going back-country, just take a few extra batteries. If you're going to developed areas, just take an extra battery and the chargers- that should be lighter than the solar chargers. I'd only bring the laptop if you are SERIOUSLY into photography and you want to do uploads, photo editing, and making CDs for others on the fly. You can also upload directly from your camera to your iPod, and most photo stores will also make you a CD for a few dollars.

Sure Fire flashlights are durable, but not very light or efficient. Try a Princton Tek LED flashlight, or a small LED head lamp instead (I have the Petzel Zipka). If you're only camping for a short time (1-2 days at a time) the stove is probably overkill.

Two pairs of pants is all you need- just bring a little camp soap (biodegradable) for washing them. Instead of four T-shirts, try just a couple, and also bring a long-sleeve button-down shirt. You'll appreciate this if it gets cold or if there are mosquitos around. You should also bring a light jacket. Many bring a fleece, but my plan is just to put on all my shirts plus a windbreaker and a fleece hat if I get hold. A wide-brimmed hat may also be nice. Again- seven changes of socks and underwear is overkill. YOu shouldn't need more than four- just wash as you go. Get the quick drying stuff for all of your clothes if possible.

I'd hold off on the MREs as well. They're huge, and meant to be as varied as possible. For a true emergency, just pack a few Powerbars. A single Powerbar Protein will fill you up suprisingly well.

I'd replace the GPS with a map and compass, but that is just me. You need to bring a map of where you are going anyway- don't rely JUST on the GPS.

If you really want to bring all of that stuff, go ahead. To each his own. If you do bring that load though, I'd recommend bringing some serious hiking boots instead of light skate shoes. I think you'd be able to lose HALF of you pack weight while sacrificing very little functionality. You will appreciate that more than you might expect while on the move.
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Oh yeah- I just looked up the Element backpack. It is only 30 liters /1800 c.i. I don't think you're going to be able to fit all of that gear in there.

So where are you going, anyway? How much time are you spending in the backcountry vs. cities?
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Your list got me thinking, so I made up a list of my own. All of this, including the daypack, fits inside the 49L main bag (but just barely).

Packing List for Thailand. 3 weeks, including some camping (basic hut or rented tent, thought I'm throwing around the idea of bringing a tube tent- it takes little more room than a windbreaker)

Bags
49L Eagle Creek Explorer LT with 20L detachable daypack and rainfly/duffel (both packed inside main bag)
Various Mesh, ziplock, and compression bags

Clothes- (all synthetic, fast drying)
Convertible Pants, Permethrin treated
Nicer looking travel pants
Long sleeve travel shirt, permethrin treated
Normal long sleeved travel shirt
2x wicking T-shirts, muted colors
4x quick drying socks
4x quick drying underwear
Wide brimmed hat for sun protection
Fleece beanie-hat
Swimming shorts
Windbreaker
Disposable poncho
Primary shoes
Thongs


Tech and Miscellaneous items
Glasses w/ case
Sunglasses
Contact lenses
Silk sleep sack
Fleece sleeping bag
Mylar emergency blanket
Travel towel
Inflatable travel pillow
Ear plugs
Eye mask
SD500 digital camera w/ 4 extra batteries
Battery charger, USB cable
Extra memory cards and blank CDs
Waterproof camera case
Cheapie underwater 35mm camera
Mask and snorkel w/ anti-fog juice
Webbed-fingered gloves (in place of fins)
LED light
String
Mini-carabineers
Travel locks
Cable lock
Zip-ties, twist ties, & 1m of duct tape
Digital watch w/ alarm
Small compass (attaches to watch band)
Postcards from home (to show others, + for gifts)
Pre-written address labels to send postcards home
3x Powerbars

Documents & paper
Passports
Driver’s license
Credit card
Debit card
$450 cash ($350 for use, $100 for emergencies only)
Itinerary
e-ticket
Travel insurance information
Copies of all of the above
Copies of birth & marriage certificates
Copies sent to email address“
Hidden Pocket” to store all of the above
Novel
Guidebook
Note pad
Pen

Toiletries
Soap and soap case
Shampoo/conditioner combo
Toothbrush & toothpaste
Floss
Travel-size toilet paper
Travel-size Kleenex
25x Alcohol moist towelettes
2x 4 oz. bottles of Purell
Biodegradable camp soap for washing clothes
Sunscreen
Hair brush
2x disposable razors
Shaving oil
Face-cleaning pads
Contact lens solution
Eye drops
Deodorant
Chap stick
Nail clippers
Tweezers

Medications
Vitamins
Advil / Tylenol
Any necessary prescription drugs
Ciproflaxin
Pepto bismol
Benedryl (for allergies and for sleeping pills)
Glucosomine & Chondrointin
Hydrocortisone
Sting-eze
Dramamine
Bug-spray / deet
Small 1st aid kit (band aids, ointment, etc.)
1L water bottle
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Damn I wish we could edit our posts here! I met to mention that all of the above weighs in at about 25 pounds.

If anybody has suggestions about trimming some fat, other than getting rid of the mask and snorkel, I'd be interested in hearing your suggestions. Right now, the main bag is pretty damn tight with all of that inside, although there is plent of room if I remove the daypack. I've just been trying to get everything insdie the main bag for carry-on reasons.
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I'm going to be trveling for quite some time 2 - 4 maybe 5 years. That is why I am taking so much "CRAP".. lol. But It will all fit into the Element Buffalo No Problem.

I did decide to chage a few Things (****)

My Backpacking Check List

[] Element Backpack (Black, w/ laptop sleeve)
[] Mini Note Book/pad
[] iBook 12" -------------------------------------------------------****
[] iPod shuffle 1 gig ----------------------------------------------****
[] Sure Fire – Flash Light, w/ Spare Parts cord
[] 2 Person tent (North Face)
[] Butane Stove (MSR Pocket Rocket Titan Kit)
[] Compact Sleeping Bag (North face)
[] Digital cam
[] DRYPAK, Water Proof Nylon Bag
[] Hydro Photon SteriPEN Ultraviolet Water Purifier
[] First Aid kit w/ snakebite kit


CLOTHES

[] 4 UFO pants & 4 Tees’
[] 7 Socks & Underwear
[] 1 Hat, 2 Bandanas’
[] Lightweight Sneakers (Northface, DVS or Etnies)
[] 1 Hoodie (Thermal Lined for cold weather)
[] Sun Glasses

HYIGEAN

[] Toothbrush & paste
[] Shampoo for washing everything
[] Small towel
[] Razor, after shave & lotion kit

LITTLE THINGS

[] Key Chain Can Opener, Bottle Opener & Knife
[] Waterproof Match Case

PACK WEIGHING IN AT ABOUT = 35 - 45 LBS

HERE IS WHERE I AM GOING;

TRAVEL GUIDE

United Kingdom
Spain
France
Northern Italy
Austria
Czech Republic
Germany
Poland
Ukraine
Yugoslavia
Southern Italy
Algeria
Libya
Egypt
****Plane 2 Thailand****
Thailand & Singapore (Spending 1/2 or 1 Year on a South Island)
South West China
Kyrgyzstan (Tien Shan, Mountains!!!)
North West China
Mongolia
Northern Asia
Russia
Japan
South East China
Philippines
Oceania Islands (Fiji, Solomon Island, Samoa)
Australia
New Zealand

This is not a set list!!! I know there will be many, Many more places I will travel in between...

So what do you think now?

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Quite a trip! That does put it into context. Probably a good move getting the smaller computer hardware. Some will actually say you should pack LESS for a longer trip since you'll be hauling it so much further, but your list doesn't seem unreasonable- particularly after your revisions. Also, don't forget- you don't need to address every contingency from the moment you leave the door. You can pick stuff up as you need it, and replace stuff as it wears out.

If you don't plan on using the stove often, you may want to look online for plans on homade alcohol stoves- VERY tiny. If you plan on using it a lot, you should probably bring some cookware with you.

There are still a few things I'd reconsider if I were in your shoes though. I would think twice about the flashlight though- those Sure Fires are made for pounding nails with- heavy and overbuilt! Get a petzel or princton tek LED light. Besides- LEDs last for about 100,000 hours on average before burn out, and battery life is about 4x as good as a halogen bulb. That means you'll need no spare parts, and fewer batteries. You should also probably do a little more backpack research before you decide on the Element. You'll probably need something that is bigger than 1800 c.i., and you'll probably want a frame of some kind. Load up the Element and hike around for a few hours though. Then try to get your hands on a good hiking or travel pack and do the same thing. Kingcrazylegs could probably offer some suggestions, or I could just tell you right now that he'll suggest the Marmot Eiger 55 or one of the Dana Design packs. Clothing is definitely a personal choice, but four identical, cotton pants doesn't give you much versatility for climate or style, and they'll take a long time to dry if you try to hand wash them.

Also, while most people here are proponenets of packing relatively light, this is YOUR trip. We've only offered suggestions- not rules. If you really want your skateboard, take it (Hell- I'm bringing snorkeling gear because that is important to me). If the GPS is important to you, bring it as well.

When are you leaving, anyway? Don't forget to log on and give updates!
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Clothing is definitely a personal choice, but four identical, cotton pants doesn't give you much versatility for climate or style, and they'll take a long time to dry if you try to hand wash them.

When are you leaving, anyway?* Don't forget to log on and give updates!
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The pants are not cotton, they are soft Nylon... Very fast drying.

you can pretty much put them on right after you wash them and they'll dry on you after about 5 min's. I'm also not going to get them all the same... 4 different pair.
1)Desert Camo
2)White, black and grey camo
3)Black
4)White
I wear them all year round as it is and they keep me warm enough in the winter and cool enough in the summer. (I can tie them up as shorts and even a backpack)

These are some of the greatest pants ever thought of... I LOVE EM.

I'm not going to b leaving for some time. maybe a year or so
I want to save up a load of money before I go.
and you know I'lll keep you up dated.... I won't keep you guys hanging on wondering what's going on, on such a cool trip like that

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Well, having your list ready is fine and dandy... but didn't you say that it'll be 2 years or so before you leave? Trust me, dude, your pack list will change by then. Try not to worry so much about what you're going to take with you until you get closer to the date.

Also-- skateboard? Probably a bit superfluous. That ain't packing light, let me tell ya!
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Well, having your list ready is fine and dandy... but didn't you say that it'll be 2 years or so before you leave?* Trust me, dude, your pack list will change by then.* Try not to worry so much about what you're going to take with you until you get closer to the date.*

Also-- skateboard?* Probably a bit superfluous.* That ain't packing light, let me tell ya!
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I know myself that by the time I do leave EVERYTHING will totaly different!

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