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06-23-2009, 07:06 PM
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Mexico, the new Holland for Westerners??
So, if you haven't heard, the Mexican gov. silently passed a law legalizing almost all drugs up to 5 grams.... Pot, Cocaine, Meth, Heroine..... Soo, the only thing left is for the Mexican President to sign it into law.... It was the presidents idea to pass this law so.......
So, do you Tpunks think this will change travel a bit?
Currently, I wouldn't go to most of Mexico due to the immense amount of violence and killings by the drug cartels.....
Do you think this will mellow the Cartel violence?
Does this make you want to go to Mexico after the law is official?
And, do you think in the long run, this will have an affect on U.S. drug policies....
Currently, many portions of the U.S. gov. are working to legalize atleast pot. It would be a HUGE taxable product......
I don't really agree with legalizing small amounts of Coc, Heroine, Meth, as we all know they are shit drugs basically.... But Pot is a plant, and as we all know.....
So Tpunks, what are your thoughts??
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07-20-2009, 10:54 PM
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Well I'm sure if the law passed and gets some socal coverage, that of course there is gonna be an increase in college student travel there. I mean why fly half way around the world to get high if you can do the same thing after a 5 hour car drive.
No matter what I don't plan on visiting Mexico any time soon. Not that I don't like the place or anything, but the violence and killings is too much of a GTFO sign for me.
As for the effect on U.S. laws, it could go either way. We could legalize it to say that we are open to the idea just like they are, or we could continue to restrict it and act like a better country. Thats weird that they would legalize all those hard drugs too. If you don't mind could you post a link?(although i should probably just google)
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07-21-2009, 12:14 AM
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I think that it will increase "tourism" to Mexico from the US and Canada, on the other hand I dunno if it will mellow the cartels or not.
As for does it make me want to visit Mexico-no. I do want to visit Mexico but the Mexican government making drugs legal does not provide an incentive for me.
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07-21-2009, 02:09 AM
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I doubt it's going to stop any violence, since the cartels generally deal in quantities larger than 5 grams.
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07-21-2009, 06:52 AM
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Until they completely decriminalize it, the cartels have no reason to stop what they're doing.
As for tourism, as if Cancun isn't enough of a spring break destination as it is, imagine the throngs of college students going if small amounts of weed are legal 
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07-21-2009, 12:46 PM
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It is already incredibly easy for travellers to get their hands on whatever drugs they want while in Mexico, so I doubt the attitude of drug curious travellers will be significantly impacted by this. However, the novelty of actually being allowed to spark up a spliff on the main street will more than likely stimulate some interest.
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07-21-2009, 01:55 PM
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Well I think as it easy as it is to get drugs there, the idea of a mexican prison always weighs heavily on the mind as well. I think it will have significant impact on tourism until the US Government smarts up and gets weed legalized
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07-21-2009, 02:43 PM
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If they create a tourism industry around it, yeah. Like if there are weed shops or smoking cafe's and you can trust what you are getting, then for sure it will get visitors down there.
I went to Mexico in February, I will be going again next February... the violence has no concern for me. I don't really care... I won't be Nuevo Laredo or Mexicali or southern Mexico so I don't think it's much of a big deal.
I read an article when I got back this February about there being armed guards and military checkpoints all around cancun airport and the surrounding cities, and amazingly, I didn't see any of this when I was there supposedly the same time this article took place, so I don't place much bank on what I read or hear in the media. Sure the cartels are violent, so are the gangs here, or maybe we haven't heard.
Now, I will steer clear of Monrovia, Liberia or Cote de Ivoire
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07-23-2009, 03:41 PM
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I am really suprised that the American media whores have not gotten ahold of this yet. But isn't it easy to get all those drugs here in the US without having to go to Mexico? I go to Holland to visit Holland, not smoke the weed (that is an added benefit). I won't go to Mexico until the figure their shit out. Most of my co-workers are Mexican anyhow.
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07-23-2009, 11:21 PM
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where is your source for this? i'm googling it but not coming up with anything recent (most articles i find are dated 2006)...
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07-24-2009, 07:39 AM
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It was in the NY Times about a month ago.... I'm not sure if the Pres of Mex. has signed it yet, but it was his creation.... The U.S. is being very quite about this...
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07-25-2009, 09:27 AM
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Yeah, I use stumble upon and it takes me to a lot of websites concerning this... US media tends to be very quiet when it comes to other countries legalizing/decriminalizing drugs. Especially Portugal... they actually have had many benefits from decriminalizing use of several drugs (including weed and some hard drugs), and there hasn't been much press on that (though TIME did have an interesting article on it a couple of months ago).
Anyway, I doubt that it'll really increase their tourism. If you're in the US and you want to smoke, you can get weed here for hell of a lot cheaper, in an environment you're more familiar with. With Amsterdam, you buy at a shop and you can trust what you're getting, who you're getting it from, etc. Unless they plan on building a similar industry (which I highly doubt, having the US as a neighbor), it's probably not going to have much of an effect.
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07-30-2009, 12:50 AM
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The violence in Mexico is because of drug consumption in the U.S., not Mexico. So legalizing drugs won’t have any effect, other than pressuring the U.S. to do the same.
Legalizing marijuana, in Mexico or the U.S., won’t have any effect on the violence in Mexico. So much incredible marijuana is grown in the U.S., and even sold (semi) legally in California and other states so why would you import sh*tty marijuana from Mexico? Legalizing the hard drugs would certainly reduce the violence drastically . . . but I’m not sure legal coken, heroin, etc. is a good idea either.
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08-08-2009, 04:46 PM
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I think I'd risk the drug cartels and a bullet to lay on a beach for 3 days with a nice big spliff.
I am aware that I can get to a beach in under 10 minutes in Sydney but our Tortillas aren't as good.
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08-09-2009, 04:39 PM
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Dig
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I would learn how to make tortillas. Very EZ.
In spain tortillas are crepe-like plain omeletts. Cultural difference obviously.
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08-09-2009, 04:52 PM
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